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Subject: Re: IM Silman reviews 5 chess programs

Author: Mark Loftus

Date: 13:17:39 08/19/98

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On August 19, 1998 at 08:00:12, Moritz Berger wrote:

>On August 19, 1998 at 07:25:52, Mark Loftus wrote:
>
>>I have a lot of respect for Mr. Silman and his down to earth style.  Also I
>>think people should realize that the ssdf list is not the gospel, this is not a
>>knock on their hard work - but when computer programs go up against masters, IMs
>>and GMs, it is a whole new ballgame.  The problem with the use of lists like the
>>ssdf is that the programs will be tuned to beat the other programs and not get
>>the improvement in strength you think you are getting.  However, if IM's and GMs
>>say the program is strong or GM, then I believe it.  I think the better measure
>>of a programs strength is against humans.
>>
>>Mark
>
>I am sceptical of Silman's assessment of programs because he wrote about some
>programs as if he knew them only from hearsay. Also, he mentioned Shredder 2
>among the strongest programs without any further comments but completely forgot
>about Hiarcs 6, Junior and the many human tournaments (also at 40/120 tc) where
>e.g. M-Chess, Fritz and Hiarcs participated. He didn't mention AEGON nor did he
>talk much about strength at different time controls.
>
>Moritz

I'll grant you that Silman is not an expert on computer programs and his
assesment was not a complete analysis of all the top programs, but I think it is
valuable to hear his views and I think he has a good idea of the strength of the
programs available to him.  How he does at 40/2 would also be interesting.

Mark






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