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Subject: Re: WHY does Gandalf reject Qxg7 ?? (was: Position that

Author: fca

Date: 20:03:12 08/25/98

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On August 25, 1998 at 18:33:39, Thorsten Czub wrote:

>On August 25, 1998 at 07:28:29, fca wrote:
>
>>But the question is:  WHY does it reject Qxg7.
>
>Some programs see that taking g7 is a bad move because it weakens the white
>position.
>A typical zugzwang game :-))
>In paderborn the zugzwang-queen was also travelling on b2 and tiger tried to
>hunt it... The game itself can bring tears in your eyes, because it shows the
>difference between search and knowledge very dramatically.
>You cannot SUBSTITUTE "do not play Qxg7" by search.
>
>Zarkov has king-safety terms...
>It gives up Qxg7 arround 4' on my 200 Mhz machine.... Other programs, depending
>on how much knowledge they have, and how many NPS they make, will also see it...
>
>>i.e. given say 1 hr/move, playing for both sides, what line and evaluations (for
>>each move) does it produce after Qxg7 is played ?
>
>What has happened in the game !

In the game White was Zugzwang, Black A.N.Other.

Here I ask please for White & Black = Gandalf.

Are you sure substantially the same line occurs if we force Qxg7 to be played?

Also evaluations.

Reason for this: OK, Gandalf rejects Qxg7 (good, Qxg7 is dumb) BUT if Gandalf is
given the chance of playing for Black also (I assume it will win as Black) at
what stage does Black realise 'aha I am winning'?

The main point is in the other post.

Kind regards

fca



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