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Subject: Re: New and final solution of the Monty Hall Dilemma

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 07:26:50 09/27/02

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On September 27, 2002 at 09:45:47, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 27, 2002 at 08:50:27, Gerrit Reubold wrote:
>
>>On September 27, 2002 at 08:22:06, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>>On September 27, 2002 at 08:14:28, Gerrit Reubold wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi Sune,
>>>>
>>>>On September 26, 2002 at 14:47:32, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I disagree, I am sure it doesn't matter whether the host opens a door (with a
>>>>goat) KNOWING where the car is or by SHEAR LUCK. The candidate should switch in
>>>>either case, thus improving his winning odds from 1/3 to 2/3. Of course, if the
>>>>host doesn't know and opens the door with the car (accidently), the game is over
>>>>:-)
>>>
>>>Ok, well at least we agree that if he KNOWS he should switch.
>>>
>>>So suppose the host doesn't know, and the host opens a door to a goat.
>>>
>>>What does this tell us?
>>>Well, since he didn't know, it means he either had a 50% probability of opening
>>>to a goat, or a 100% probability.
>>>
>>>He gets 100% probability if we are sitting on the car, and he gets 50% if the
>>>car is behind the one of the doors he had to choose from.
>>>
>>>The odds of picking a goat if you have 100% probability is higher than if you
>>>only have 50% (obviously), okay?
>>
>>I don't care what that probability was _before_ he opened the door. The door
>>with the goat is _now_ open.
>
>Suppose for the discussion that the candidate also guess door 1
>and the host always open door 3 in case that door 1 has  a goat.
>
>If I understand correctly you say that the candidate should switch
>and get probability of 2/3.
>
>Do you agree?
>
>Let assume case i means that the car is behind door i.
>
>In case 1 the car is behind door 1 so the candidate win only if he does not
>switch.
>In case 2 the car is behind door 2 so the candidate win only if
>he switchs.
>
>In case 3 the car is behind door 3 so the host expose the car so there
>is no game.
>
>Do you agree?
>
>The probability for every case is 1/3 before the game start.
>
>Do you agree?
>
>
>If we know that case 3 does not happen and this is what we know
>after the host opened door 3 and found no car


Uri,

you take all the fun out of it.Because you are proving mathematically my point.
But ok, I had made it a while ago. So we two are now in consense? No wonder!

Take care, and a beatiful weekend!

Rolf Tueschen





> then it means
>that there are only 2 cases and the probability for every case is
>(1/3)/(2/3)=1/2.
>
>Do you agree?
>
>It mean that switching is going to give you probability 1/2
>
>Do you agree?
>
>I did not spend some minutes to try to understand
>sune's post but I believe that he also understood the point.
>
>Uri



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