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Subject: Re: Yudasin vs Junior 5.0 [Conclusion]

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 18:44:04 08/29/98

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On August 29, 1998 at 18:35:13, Shay Bushinsky wrote:

>Yudasin vs Junior 5.0
>=================
>
>We have completed three interesting and exciting days of a match against
>international grandmaster Leonid Yudasin. The event took place in the luxurious
>Hyatt Regency hotel, Ein Bokek, the dead sea, Israel.
>
>The conclusion of the match was as follows:
>
>1. Standard time control part (120/40 and 60/rest) 1.5 - 0.5 in favor of Yudasin
>2. Rapid time control part (30/all) 2 - 2 draw
>3. Unofficial blitz match (5/all) 4.5-1.5 in favor of Junior 5.0
>
>We have only but appreciation to grandmaster Yudasin for taking the
>challenge and playing great chess against Junior. Yudasin,  is not
>only an all round first class positional expert and tactician, but is
>a very spiritual person as well. He had taken the challenge beyond
>just another chess match to really try and investigate the differences
>between the human thought process in chess and the way computers
>play the game.

Yudasin sharing his thoughts on the games is an added bonus. It sounds as if
he was eager to communicate with you about this.
>
>Along the match, Yudasin seemed to have changed his mind in his
>effort to classify Junior as a chess playing entity.
>Indeed he reckoned that Junior 5.0 is of  above 2500 playing strength.
>Though after the standard time control part, Yudasin felt that Junior
>is an improved tactical "brother" of his predecessor. It was after game 3
>of the rapid match, Yudasin had recognized Junior's positional strengths
>as well.
>
>In his summation of the match, Yudasin felt that the result was justified.
>He believed that he is still slightly superior in the slower time controls.
>Yudasin tried to explain the difference in what he termed human's "second order
>of chess understanding" - the ability to appreciate when positional features
>are good and when the same features are bad - giving the example of Junior's
>central pawns in game 1 which were a disadvantage due to their relative
>weaknesses.

This will remain a hurdle for programmers - deciding on what features make
a position good or bad. The example he cites from game #1 is something I'd
like to see a strong GM like him expand on. Perhaps even in a book once more
40/2 games are out there to annotate.

>Yudasin also thought that if computers would be given  a "relative sense" e.g.
>would be
>able to adopt their game to the opponent's or to "bluff" sometimes, they would
>become
>extremely strong.
>
>All of the games were transmitted live over the ICC. The winning internet
>comment was from one of the observers who disagreed with us when we claimed
>that the dead sea is the lowest point on earth. He insisted that it is rather
>Washington D.C!
>
>From our point of view, as programmers, we felt that the match was very
>valuable. It exposed some obvious problems such as: Qb8, Bh8 and
>Bb7 in STC game 2 etc. but we felt that still the games were of high quality.
>Personally I liked game 3 of the rapid part where Yudasin tried a "sit and
>wait policy" and was positionally punished by Junior. I also
>can't stop admiring how Yudasin handled rapid game 4 where I'm
>sure that not many humans would of escaped Junior alive.
>
>A technical detail:
>Junior 5.0, soon to be released by Chessbase gmbh, ran on a Pentium
>333Mhz utilizing 80MB of RAM.  Thanks to everybody who helped us
>have this event. Special thanks to:
>
>Matthias Wuellenweber of Chessbase, Rinat Zukerman of Hyatt,
>Guy Zadik of Packared Bell and Andy McFarland of ICC
>
>and of course to grandmaster Leonid Yudasin and to Amir Ban my partner.
>
>We hope you enjoyed the event.

Yes, I appreciate the efforts that go into making such events a reality.
Thanks. Especially the standard 40/2 controls are interesting to follow.
There are so many games out there to play over that I for one just can't
find the time to play over the fast, non standard games. But the comp vs GM
or IM at 40/2 are rare and so spark greater interest in me.

 For your convenience the match
>games are enclosed. The next event on Junior's agenda will take
>place Tuesday, September 8th. IGM Dov Zifroni will play a two game
>match against Junior.



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