Author: Komputer Korner
Date: 14:05:40 08/30/98
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On August 28, 1998 at 16:59:37, Moritz Berger wrote: >On August 28, 1998 at 16:30:02, Serge Desmarais wrote: > > >> Jeff Andersson has had the same problem, though he did not report it in here >>(he says it only occured once), while another person (in R.G.C.C.), whose name I >>don't remember, had it even worse than for me: 2 days after installation he had >>lost ALL White's first moves except for 1.e4. He reinstalled the game and after >>a while the root of the tree was left with only 1.c4 as a starting move! It >>seems that if you do not import new games or have it learn things, nothing wrong >>happens to it. It must be a fragile decoration : as long as you don't touch >>(use) it, it doesn't break... > >Did you contact ChessBase about the problem? They ought to know how many users >are affected. If the problem persists, you should ask your dealer for a refund >and return Fritz. > > >> KK also reported that some other people has/have reported that bug to him and >>all he knows is that the tree could NOT be fixed/restored once corrupted. He >>thinks the patch 5.03 COULD correct that problem. He also told me that Chessbase >>now has added an option under the Book menu, called "Restore Old Book", though >>he wasn't clear about what it does exactly? > >Poor KK sometimes mixes things up ... After all, he's just a Komputer ... >There's no "Restore Old Book" feature but an "Import Old Book" command to >convert old books from Genius and Rebel into Fritz trees. But don't hold your >breath, I found it to be useless for any real purposes. Or maybe he was talking >about "Restore Old Bug"? > >> Mabe restoring the book to the state >>it was before getting corrupted, from some of backup? > >Your idea with doing a backup is fine, trouble is you need enough space on your >harddisk for a second copy of each tree or a "serious" backup solution, e.g. DAT >streamer with backup software etc. > >> As for you suggestion, I only have ONE computer. And I would feel strange in >>arriving at a friend's home and telling him I am coming to install a 200 meg's >>chess program and to test it for a "known" bug and I do not know how long it >>could take to appear? > >I don't know if it's a known "bug" ... I have done much work with trees in Fritz >and ChessBase and never encountered it (I have built trees up to 3.5 GB big) ... >How much RAM do you have? I have >64 MB on all machines, maybe if you have 8 MB >or not enough free capacity on your primary partition (drive c:) for a big >swapfile, that could be a reason for strange "bugs" when dealing with such huge >databases like Fritz' trees. Does your machine handle any kind of big database >well? Maybe it breaks under the sheer size of the DB ... Don't laugh, my AMD K6 >would crash *only* on chess programs, it didn't matter which one I tried, >because only chess programs would stress it enough to reach a too hot >temperature very soon ... The same problem with burning CD-ROMs: You only find >out that something's wrong when the CD writer spits out another recordable CD >with cryptic error messages ... > >> KK suggested, at first, that that was maybe because I am using Windows 3.11? >>But the user that had it worse than my case in using Win95, so... As for Jeff >>Andersson, I didn't ask. One could say that that could be because it is not on >>the same drive as the game. But it let you access/copy it anywhere and just >>writes down the path. > >I even use trees in a local network, so that's not the problem here. > >> I have been waiting quite a while to buy it and was reading the magazine >>articles about it, and I waited for it to be tested quite extensively by the >>SSDF and all, to be sure everything was/would be okay... > >Sorry, but there's never a way to be 100% on the safe side with any piece of >software beyond small programs that display "Hello world" on your screen ... > >Moritz EXCUSE ME!!!!!!!! Serge is talking poppycock about "Restore old book". I never said any such thing. The menu is Import Old Book and Moritz it is indeed a useful function. I imported all of my Genius Powerbooks into a tree and am very happy with the results. It even imported 2 of the Genius types of symbols. -- Komputer Korner
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