Author: Uri Blass
Date: 07:19:01 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 10:09:03, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 08, 2002 at 10:01:00, Rolf Tueschen wrote: > >>On October 08, 2002 at 09:54:15, Rolf Tueschen wrote: >> >>>- >> >>He makes incoherent moves like a3, Nd5, Nf6, h3 etc... >> >>What they tried to do was to tell Fritz to make some "positional" moves... >>What a difference. But the reason for the difference betwen Kramnik and Fritz is >>clear. Both can calculate, only Kramnik knows what to calculate deep enough. >>It's so funny to see Fritz always coming late and breathless and again there is >>nothing to bite... (position after h3) >> >>Rolf Tueschen > >I think that the problem of Fritz is that kramnik had >the program so he could know to get into the >type of position when Fritz does not know to play well. > >I do not think that he prepared all the games but I believe >that he did opening preperation to >get positions that Fritz does not know to play. > >I still try to find with yace(only material) >when did Fritz lose material. > >It seems that Nd5 or an earlier move >was the mistake. > >Uri Here is the analysis of yace only material after 22.Nd5 c6 New game - Junior 7 2kr3r/p4pbp/1pp1b3/2pNPp2/2P2P2/PP2K3/6PP/2R2B1R w - - 0 1 Analysis by Yace 0.99.56: 23.Nd5xb6+ a7xb6 -+ (-2.70) Depth: 1 00:00:00 23.Nd5-f6 Bg7xf6 24.e5xf6 Rh8-e8 25.Ke3-f3 Re8-g8 26.a3-a4 Rg8-g6 27.Rc1-a1 Be6-d7 28.Bf1-d3 Rg6xf6 29.Kf3-g3 h7-h5 30.Kg3-h4 Bd7-e6 31.Rh1-d1 Kc8-b8 32.g2-g3 Rd8-h8 33.Bd3-c2 Rf6-g6 µ (-0.80) Depth: 1 00:00:00 23.Nd5-e7+ Kc8-b8 = (-0.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00 23.Nd5-e7+ Kc8-c7 = (-0.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00 23.Nd5-e7+ Kc8-d7 24.Ne7xc6 Kd7xc6 -+ (-2.70) Depth: 2 00:00:00 23.Nd5-f6 Bg7xf6 24.e5xf6 Rh8-e8 25.Ke3-f3 Re8-g8 26.a3-a4 Rg8-g6 27.Rc1-a1 Be6-d7 28.Bf1-d3 Rg6xf6 29.Kf3-g3 h7-h5 30.Kg3-h4 Bd7-e6 31.Rh1-d1 Kc8-b8 32.g2-g3 Rd8-h8 33.Bd3-c2 Rf6-g6 µ (-0.80) Depth: 2 00:00:00 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 = (-0.10) Depth: 2 00:00:00 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 = (-0.10) Depth: 3 00:00:00 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 = (-0.10) Depth: 4 00:00:00 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 = (-0.10) Depth: 5 00:00:00 4kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Rd8-f8 = (-0.10) Depth: 6 00:00:00 9kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Rd8-f8 26.Ke3-f3 = (-0.10) Depth: 7 00:00:00 32kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Rd8-f8 26.Ke3-f3 Bg7-h6 = (-0.10) Depth: 8 00:00:00 61kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Rd8-f8 26.Ke3-f3 Bg7-h6 27.Rc1-b1 = (-0.10) Depth: 9 00:00:00 210kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Rd8-f8 26.Ke3-f3 Bg7-h6 27.Rc1-b1 Ke7-e8 = (-0.10) Depth: 10 00:00:01 542kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Rd8-f8 26.Ke3-f3 Bg7-h6 27.Rc1-b1 Ke7-e8 28.Kf3-g3 = (-0.10) Depth: 11 00:00:02 1182kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Bg7-h6 26.Ne2-g3 Rd8-d7 27.Ng3-e2 Rd7-c7 28.Ke3-f3 Be6-c8 = (-0.10) Depth: 12 00:00:06 3418kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Bg7-h6 26.Ne2-g3 Rd8-d7 27.Ng3-e2 Rd7-c7 28.Ke3-f3 Be6-c8 29.Rc1-b1 = (-0.10) Depth: 13 00:00:15 8400kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Bg7-h6 26.Ne2-g3 Rd8-d7 27.Ng3-e2 Rd7-c7 28.Ke3-f3 Be6-c8 29.Rc1-b1 Bc8-d7 = (-0.10) Depth: 14 00:00:45 24264kN 23.Nd5-c3 Kc8-d7 24.Rh1-g1 Kd7-e7 25.Nc3-e2 Bg7-h6 26.Ne2-g3 Rd8-d7 27.Ng3-e2 Rd7-c7 28.Ke3-f3 Be6-c8 29.Rc1-b1 Bc8-d7 30.Kf3-f2 = (-0.10) Depth: 15 00:03:11 101351kN 23.Nd5-c3 Rh8-e8 24.Ke3-f3 f7-f6 25.e5xf6 Bg7xf6 26.Rc1-c2 Be6-f7 27.h2-h3 Bf6-d4 28.Nc3-d1 Re8-e1 29.Rc2-d2 b6-b5 30.Rh1-h2 Re1xf1+ 31.Kf3-e2 ³ (-0.50) Depth: 16 00:16:50 508200kN 23.Nd5-c3 Rh8-e8 24.Ke3-f3 f7-f6 25.e5xf6 Bg7xf6 26.Rc1-c2 Be6-f7 27.h2-h3 Bf6-d4 28.Nc3-d1 Re8-e1 29.Rc2-d2 b6-b5 30.c4xb5 Bf7xb3 31.Nd1-f2 c6xb5 µ (-0.90) Depth: 16 00:26:09 783681kN 23.Nd5-f6 Rh8-e8 24.Nf6xe8 Rd8xe8 µ (-0.89) Depth: 16 00:26:50 804795kN 23.Nd5-f6 Bg7xf6 24.e5xf6 Rh8-e8 25.Ke3-f3 Re8-g8 26.a3-a4 Rg8-g6 27.Rc1-a1 Be6-d7 28.Bf1-d3 Rg6xf6 29.Kf3-g3 h7-h5 30.Kg3-h4 Bd7-e6 31.Rh1-d1 Kc8-b8 µ (-0.80) Depth: 16 00:27:29 823716kN (Blass, Tel-aviv 08.10.2002) After learning that 23.Nf6 is bad: [D]2kr3r/p1p2pbp/1p2b3/2p1Pp2/2P2P2/PPN1K3/6PP/2R2B1R w - - 0 1 Analysis by Yace 0.99.56: 22.h2-h3 = (-0.10) Depth: 1 00:00:00 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 = (-0.10) Depth: 2 00:00:00 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 = (-0.10) Depth: 3 00:00:00 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 = (-0.10) Depth: 4 00:00:00 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 = (-0.10) Depth: 5 00:00:00 3kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 = (-0.10) Depth: 6 00:00:00 6kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 = (-0.10) Depth: 7 00:00:00 24kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 = (-0.10) Depth: 8 00:00:00 58kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 Kc8-d7 = (-0.10) Depth: 9 00:00:00 178kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 Kc8-d7 27.Bf1-d3 = (-0.10) Depth: 10 00:00:00 464kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 Kc8-d7 27.Bf1-d3 Kd7-e8 = (-0.10) Depth: 11 00:00:02 1204kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 Kc8-d7 27.Bf1-d3 Kd7-e8 28.Kf2-g3 = (-0.10) Depth: 12 00:00:05 2954kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 Kc8-d7 27.Bf1-d3 Kd7-e8 28.Kf2-g3 Be6-d7 = (-0.10) Depth: 13 00:00:33 17710kN 22.h2-h3 Bg7-f8 23.Rc1-d1 Rd8xd1 24.Nc3xd1 c7-c6 25.Nd1-b2 a7-a5 26.Ke3-f2 Kc8-d7 27.Bf1-d3 Kd7-e8 28.Kf2-g3 Be6-d7 29.Kg3-h4 = (-0.10) Depth: 14 00:01:40 51101kN (Blass, Tel-aviv 08.10.2002) Could better hardware help Fritz to avoid 22.Nd5 for tactical reasons or maybe yace(only material) did not search deep enough to see that 22.h3 also lose material? Uri Uri
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