Author: Roy Eassa
Date: 14:41:40 10/08/02
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On October 08, 2002 at 14:26:36, Daniel Clausen wrote: >On October 08, 2002 at 13:02:17, Rex wrote: > >>Fritz is FRIED. Tiger should have been allowed to play in the comp tourney. >>This 8 CPU program is not impressive. This is an Embarrassment for Fritz. >>Looks like the BEST program is NOT going against the BEST GM. > > >Why don't we stop hiding behind things like 'wrong engine!', unfair advantage >because he could study the engine a long time! Not enough CPUs! Too many CPUs! >Wrong HT size! Wrong personality! Wrong book! > >While I agree that the different engines have different styles, they still have >a 'common style' so to say. And Kramnik illustrated brilliantly in the past 3 >games, what limits this style has. Stop thinking 'what if... this, what if >that!' Don't look too much on the score! (it's only 3 games so far, you know) >Look at the games! They should teach much more than just the result! Stop >blaming the losses to individual moves (like Bf8 or a3 today) Don't desparately >look for engines who would have played a different moves, although the score >difference would only be 0.1 pawns! Look at the whole games! And if you still >don't understand, replay them again! And again! :) > You go guy! Well said. >In many human-comp games, the human manages to build a favourable position >against the comp. (no matter which comp I bet) Turning this favourable (or >sometimes 'won' position) into an actual win is the big problem. And this will >be harder and harder in the future, because here the NPS kicks in. The NPS don't >help much though when the GMs try to reach a favourable position. > >I predict that the best humans will be able to at least draw the machines for >many years to come, if the programs don't begin to 'play chess' rather than >'calculate chess'. > Humans will be able to win some percentage of games for many decades to come, IMHO. The percentage will fall with time, but it will not reach zero in any of our lifetimes. >Note: This is not meant as an attack to the programmers. It's just my personal >assessment where computer chess is today, nothing more, nothing less. > >Sargon
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