Author: blass uri
Date: 10:59:01 09/04/98
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On September 04, 1998 at 13:40:56, Fernando Villegas wrote: > > >Hi all: >Many times it has been said here, specially by Bob Hyatt, that there is not >transitivity in terms of strength between programs: If A beat B and B beat C, >that does not means, then, that A surely beats C. This is true and the same is >true, as experience show, in the realms of human players of any category. But >then I wonder if also is true in the mixed field of programs vs human Vs GM. I >wonder if the known fact that GM are still stronger than programs in long games >and the also known fact that top programs are far stronger than A and even >expert level players, then that necessarily means that GM are stronger than top >programs in relation with those low level players. >My feeling is that this is a debatable issue. In fact, I even have some >arguments to say that maybe top programs are stronger than GM in that specific >relationship with low level players. Let me explain my point. >What makes a GM a GM and not just a master or IM is specifically his superior >positional grasping of the game. They see, in that field, things that we does >not even suspect. In the most rarified layers of that stratosphere, say, in >games between Karpov and Kasparov, we just don’t understand what is happening, >why one of them resigned or offered a draw; they see things far beyond our chess >understanding. >Nevertheless, it is very unlike that a game between a GM and an expert o A class >player could ever reach a depth where such kind of subtile things becomes >necessary. The weaker player will be finished long before just on the ground of >tactical shots or, more likely if we are talking of an expert player, with >positional pressure of the kind you can meet in a Master or IM level player. >That is more than enough 99% of cases. So, with this low level players, the >knowledge and expertise of GM in the most subtile areas of positional >understanding will stay without use, or, in other terms, will become marginally >useful for the strongest player. >But then, look what happens from the point of view of the weaker player. When he >is playing -in a simul or, like in my case, in my home with a friend GM- he >surely will be defeated, but as much the GM is nevertheless a human being, there >is a likelihood that maybe, maybe, MAYBE you will be capable sometime to kill >him with a tactical bullet in the head before he can use his superior positional >understanding OR, more probably, that the GM will miss a tactical shot you made >possible due to an inexact move or even an straight blunder and do you will be >let playing with a hope to get something. And you know it. You know you can do >it, that you have the chance. You know that maybe a minute imprecision will be >not detected after all. >But against top programs the feeling is entirely different. What you know from >the beginning is that nothing of all those tactical tricks you learned after an >entire life of chess playing will be useful at all No, I do not know it before the game. There are tactical tricks that are too deep for the program to see and if you learned a tactical trick like this before the game then you have a chance to win. There are mistakes that I know that all the top programs do but I cannot be sure about a mistake that all the grandmasters will do. I think I have better chances to win a game by home preperation before the game against a program than against a grandmaster. Uri
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