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Subject: Re: a little statistics - sometimes I can't resist :-)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:15:32 10/22/02

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On October 22, 2002 at 10:00:55, Daniel Clausen wrote:

>On October 22, 2002 at 05:57:23, Brian Katz wrote:
>
>[snip]
>
>>Please tell me why all these other posters think that I am only basing my
>>findings on 8 games.
>
>Maybe you should read your intial post in this thread again? You wrote:
>
>: I raised the Hash Table settings for Fritz 7 to 192 MB as opposed to
>: Deep-Fritz 7 set at 32 MB Hash. Surely, 192 should be much too high for
>: such a time control with my processor speed. Well, Fritz 7 still beat out
>: Deep-Fritz 7 by 5.0-3.0
>
>Maybe that is the reason?
>
>
>[snip]
>
>>The simple fact of the matter is that DF7 does not perform as well on my
>>computer as Fritz 7.
>
>Fine. And it's very well possible that you've made enough games (against
>different opponents etc) to come to this conclusion. But that's not the point
>you made in your initial posting.
>
>In your initial post, you said you increased the HT of F7 to 192MB, let the HT
>of DF7 at 32MB, played 8 games and were disappointed/surprised by the outcome.
>_That's_ what people respond to, _not_ all the other games you played and which
>lead to the conclusion that F7 is stronger on your comp than DF7 in general.
>
>
>[snip]
>
>>So please, who ever replies to this post. MY findings are not based on only 8
>>games, they are based on many. At least 200-300 games.
>>What I found odd in the last tournament I ran is the extremely high hash table
>>settings for Fritz 7. I thought that this would handicap Fritz 7 but it still
>>performed better anyway.
>
>And in order to find out whether the extremely high HT settings for F7 really
>handicap F7 you played only 8 games. The 200-300 games you played before don't
>count since they were not played with these extremely high HT settings...
>
>Sargon

The 8 games with big hash for Fritz7 only gives an impression.
Instead of playing hundreds of games to check if the impression is correct it is
faster to get into conclusion by finding if Fritz7 search less nodes with higher
hash tables.

If Fritz does not clear the hash tables between moves or if the time it takes it
to clear it's hash tables is very small relative to the time that is used in the
game then common sense says that they should not be a significant factor in the
games.

Uri



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