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Subject: Re: Ultimate Computer for chess

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:30:17 11/15/02

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On November 15, 2002 at 12:03:53, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:

>On November 15, 2002 at 09:55:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>HardDrive: 4 GB IDE(ATA-100)#1 inch 7.2 RPM Precision Workstation 530
>>
>>If you use egtb's, I _hate_ EIDE drives.  They are slow as christmas compared
>>to good SCSI drives.  Particularly ultra-320 15000RPM scsi drives.  When you
>>get an IDE disk busy, the entire machine runs dog slow.  WIth SCSI, this
>>doesn't happen at all..
>
>This is generally true, but with modern EIDE the gap is really not that big,
>unless you get a monster like a fiber-channel suited for an Oracle server.

It is really a huge gap.  Get on an EIDE machine and do a disk to disk copy
and notice that the cpu just about hangs up.  Do the same on a SCSI machine
and you can't even tell it is going on...

That is what I hate about EIDE...

Current SCSI is 320mbytes/second.  EIDE is way behind that.  Not to mention
the bus saturation problem I mentioned above...



>
>Does anybody have figures for a standard SCSI vs ATA-100 in terms of TB scan?
>
>regards
>Franz

Here is a sample:

Using 15K scsi drives, it takes 4.5 seconds to scan for 3/4/5 piece files.

USING an ATA100 machine, it takes 16.96 seconds...

the sixes make this take forever, but for fun (I can only do sixes on a SCSI
machine, I have no EIDE boxes with 6's on them):

11.8 seconds on scsi.  This is all the 3-4-5-6 piece files on my ftp machine,
tested on my quad xeon which is only 160mb SCSI, not 320...



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