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Subject: Re: Possible small improvement to hacky method

Author: Matt Taylor

Date: 11:14:32 12/07/02

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On December 06, 2002 at 22:50:40, Walter Faxon wrote:

>On December 06, 2002 at 05:33:42, Matt Taylor wrote:
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>>It's also a tad strange that the code loads dl and then copies edx into eax. >It would be more direct to simply store the table value in eax.
>>
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>I get the feeling that, for the compiler in question at least, once it decides
>that a register is going to be used as an address or offset, it loses or ignores
>its knowledge of the register's bitwise mapping.  It preps edx to receive the
>byte in dl, uses eax to load dl, then copies the whole thing to eax.  If it used
>eax to write to al directly, the compiler would think it still needs to mask out
>the (already zeroed) rest of eax afterwards.  So it does it this way because the
>reg-reg copy is faster and the edx prep can be overlapped with other work.
>Anyway, that's a possible explanation.  One would need detailed knowledge of the
>compiler to know for sure.  (And don't get mad at the compiler writers; writing
>good compilers is hard work!)
>
>-- Walter

Yeah, but the x86 architecture has a movzx instruction for that very purpose.
AMD manuals actually advise that it is faster to use movzx than the equivalent
sequence...

And yeah, I know compiler writing is very difficult. I have actually been
working on one for various reasons. The difference is that I have a human
optimizer. :-)

Actually I was working on an optimizer that takes machine code and produces more
optimal machine code (which is what I will spit my compiler output through when
it's done).

-Matt



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