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Subject: Re: Questions re P4 3.03 with HT ??

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:24:52 12/08/02

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On December 08, 2002 at 16:42:37, Matt Taylor wrote:

>On December 08, 2002 at 14:07:50, Christopher A. Morgan wrote:
>
>>Aaron,
>>
>>If I'm reading yours and Steffan's test results correctly,
>>Athlon XP 2520 is 1.578 million nodes per second, and P4 3.03
>>with HT enabled is 1.161 million nodes per second.  Your test
>>on Crafty 18.15 and Steffan’s test on Crafty 18.11.
>>
>>Although the different versions of Crafty could account for some
>>difference in speed (which way, I have no idea), the XP 2520 is some
>>36% faster than the 3.03 with HT.  Bob’s test indicated with two
>>CPUs that with HT enabled the HT versions were some 33% faster
>>than without HT enabled.  He was comparing P4s at ~ 2850 GHz or so.
>>
>>I see your other results that show that the XP 2520 is substantially
>>faster than the P4 at 3.25 GHz.
>>
>>This means that the XP 2520 is still the speed demon by a wide margin
>>compared to the P4, with or without HT enabled.  Is this correct?  Thanks!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On December 08, 2002 at 06:05:48, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>>
>>>I only have results from version 18.11 but here are a few...
>>>
>>>AthlonXP 2520MHz
>>>Total nodes: 104161030
>>>Raw nodes per second: 1578197
>>>Total elapsed time: 66
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 9.696970
>>>
>>>Pentium 4 3255MHz without HT
>>>Total nodes: 104161030
>>>Raw nodes per second: 1335397
>>>Total elapsed time: 78
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 8.205128
>>>
>>>AthlonXP 1860MHz
>>>Total nodes: 104161030
>>>Raw nodes per second: 1197253
>>>Total elapsed time: 87
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 7.356322
>>>
>>>Pentium 4 2765MHz
>>>Total nodes: 104161030
>>>Raw nodes per second: 1120011
>>>Total elapsed time: 93
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 6.881720
>>>
>>>http://speedycpu.dyndns.org/crafty/craftybench4.jpg - Crafty v18.11 benchmark
>>>list.
>
>AthlonXP 2.52 GHz, not performance rating 2520. The AthlonXP 2800 is only
>clocked at 2.25 GHz. The 1860 MHz AthlonXP is approximately AthlonXP 2200. Bus
>speed is important to keep in mind, too, and none of these chips are running at
>a standard (100/133/166 MHz) bus speed.
>
>It would be more valuable to compare the P4 3 GHz with and without HT to the
>AthlonXP 2800 on their default bus speeds. I believe this is what Dr. Hyatt was
>advocating, too. Nobody has done that, though.
>
>-Matt


I also think that the numbers for the HT-enabled stuff might be wrong.  The
node counts should vary, because to use HT, it is necessary to run the SMP
version of crafty and use mt=2 to use both logical processors.  That will
produce variability in the total nodes searched that I didn't see in any of
the numbers displayed...



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