Author: Yen Art Tham
Date: 10:34:07 12/18/02
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On December 18, 2002 at 13:06:08, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On December 18, 2002 at 11:16:42, Matt Taylor wrote: > >>On December 18, 2002 at 10:28:22, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >> >>>On December 18, 2002 at 10:25:04, Tony Werten wrote: >>> >>>>On December 18, 2002 at 10:08:28, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >>>> >>>>>On December 18, 2002 at 09:51:05, Tony Werten wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On December 18, 2002 at 09:39:45, Pavel Blokhine wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I guess that this computer will humble the Dual xeon 2.8 Ghz. >>>>>> >>>>>>I'm quite sure it won't and will be less than 50% faster. >>>>>> >>>>>>Tony >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No Sub Description Quantity >>>>>>> XeonMP 2.0Ghz 2Meg L3/Cache 400Mhz FSB 4 >>>>>>> Glacier 8 Quad 7U XeonMP 8/64bit PCI 100/1000 Video D/U160 1 >>>>>>> DIMM DDR PC2100 ECC 128 x 72 (1GB) Registered 8 >>>>>>> "Seagate 146GB HDD Ultra320 SCA 10,000 RPM 1"" LP" 1 >>>>>>> CD-ROM / DVD Drive 48X CD/16X DVD AC-3 Toshiba IDE 1 >>>>>>> Modem SupraMax Voice 56K V90 PCI (Intel Only) 1 >>>>>>> SCSI Terminator Ultra/160 LVD F/W/U 68 Pin INT 1 >>>>>>> "Cable SCSI 68PIN 5 Conn. LVD TNF INT. 50""" 1 >>>>>>> Keyboard Microsoft Natural 1 >>>>>>> Microsoft Intellimouse PS/2 2-Button W/Scroll 1 >>>>>>> Windows 2000 Professional Operating System 1 >>>>>>> Full & Mid & Rack Super Blue Poly End Caps 1 >>>>>>> Warranty: 2 Years Parts & Labor 1 >>>>>>> "Viewsonic LCD Display 20"" VP201mb 1600X1280 Black" 1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>We will be happy to supply any additional information you may need. Every >>>>>>>order Product Total "$30,629.50 " >>>>>>>receives our prompt and careful attention. This quotation is confidential >>>>>>>and Discount $0.00 >>>>>>>subject to change without notice after 01/16/2003. This quotation >>>>>>>supersedes Freight $50.00 >>>>>>>any verbal quotation(s) made prior to the date above. Changes must be made >>>>>>>in Sales Tax $0.00 >>>>>>>writing. Certain items may be substituted with equivalent or higher value >>>>>>>items Quote Total "$30,679.50 " >>>>>>>if necessary. All complete systems have a -30- day money-back guarantee. See >>>>>>>Aspen Systems website for complete warranty information: >>>>>>>http://www.aspsys.com/warranty.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Authorized by Date >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>And why would you say that? Can you give us an explanation? >>>> >>>>A dual 2.8 is equivelent to 2.8+(0.7*2.8)=4.76 Ghz >>>> >>>>A quad 2.0 is equivelent to 2.0+(0.7*2.0*3)=6.2 Ghz >>>> >>>>That's 30% increase. >>>> >>>>Tony >>> >>> >>>Okay, but have you taken in consideration the 8 GB of RAM versus the usual 1 GB >>>of RAM that a Dual Xeon 2.8 GHZ has? > >First, a dual xeon can have as much ram as a quad xeon. However, most >motherboards don't have enough memory slots as they are made more compact, >while the quad boards end up with a daughter-board that holds the memory, >typically up to 16 modules. > >But as 1gb modules are available today, the Dell I have could go to 6 gigs >with no problem. > >> >>The ram won't make a huge difference either way. It would if your chess program >>started swapping, but if it was swapping, processor speed wouldn't make any >>difference. > >Depending on the speed of the program, the size of ram can affect search speed >by maybe a factor of 2.0 in the middlegame. In the endgame it will be more >pronounced. But since dual xeons can go to whatever memory limit the MB >manufacturers choose to design for, this is not very significant. So, what should be the minimum amount of ram one should have to run a fast searcher (at blitz and tournament time controls) on a dual 2.8 xeon? yat > > > > >> >>A $1800 AthlonMP 2400 system can almost tie the dual-Xeon 2.8 GHz. It would be >>more cost-effective just to build a NUMA system out of 4 such nodes. You'd >>probably get about the same speed-up. >> >>-Matt
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