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Subject: Re: Intel C++ 7.0 compiler questions...

Author: Frank Phillips

Date: 08:26:20 12/26/02

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On December 26, 2002 at 10:59:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On December 26, 2002 at 10:49:52, Frank Phillips wrote:
>
>>On December 26, 2002 at 09:33:43, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>>From my experience: Intel's compiler shines where application spent majority of
>>>its time in several tight loops. When execution time is more-or-less evenly
>>>spread across the large application it's more important to get shorter code than
>>>to emit locally optimal but longer code.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>Eugene
>>
>>This seems consistent with an Intel 1.1 MByte executable compared to around 400
>>kBytes for gcc.
>>
>>Frank
>
>
>It is probably unrelated to that.  The size difference is most likely a
>library issue.  IE my intel executables on linux are in the same size range
>is the executables for gcc 3.x.  But both use ld.so-type shared libraries that
>are _not_ a part of the executable file while it sits on disk.


The executables are for Linux.  Linked with a standard install of the Intel
compiler; and not statically linked. Are you linking with another library?

Frank


>
>>
>>>
>>>On December 25, 2002 at 22:34:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 24, 2002 at 10:55:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 24, 2002 at 04:47:21, Frank Phillips wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 23, 2002 at 12:12:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On December 23, 2002 at 12:01:10, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You forget the crucial data point and that's that you have
>>>>>>>no AMD K7s out there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Intel is about 30% faster than gcc3.2 (and gcc2.95 and gcc 2.96) with profile
>>>>>>guided optimisation for me on my AMD Athlons (Palomino and Thoroughbred).  Not
>>>>>>all of this can be due to incompetence, I suggest.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>you must be using bitboards then. No other option possible.
>>>>>profile guided optimization speeds me up 20% at k7 with gcc 3.x
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How can you possibly say "no other option possible"???
>>>>
>>>>Intel _also_ does profile-guided optimizations.  But I can think of _lots_
>>>>of reasons why he might get better results than you get.  Starting with his
>>>>programming style which might be _better_...



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