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Subject: Re: SSDF(Chess Tiger 15 - Ruffian 1.0.1)A1200, 1.5-2.5, now 20.5-16.5

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 07:18:32 12/27/02

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On December 27, 2002 at 09:35:21, Christophe Theron wrote:

>On December 27, 2002 at 00:15:44, Sune Larsson wrote:
>
>>On December 26, 2002 at 23:37:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>On December 26, 2002 at 11:05:34, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 10:39:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 10:06:35, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Nice Result for Ruffian (with his simply book too!) !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Tiger beats Df7 too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Go Ruffian go!
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there an evidence that Ruffian has an inferior book?
>>>>>Did people analyze the game to find if Tiger got better positions from the
>>>>>opening?
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>>
>>>>I was going to ask the same question, can somebody show me at least 5 games
>>>>where Ruffian got an inferior opening position than CT15?
>>>>
>>>>Pichard
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>The reasoning behind that is that Ruffian is so strong that if it loose the
>>>match it can only be because it has an inferior book.
>>>
>>>Don't break people's dreams... :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    Christophe
>>
>>
>> And beyond the dreams one realizes that there in fact could be many reasons...
>> But how would you yourself estimate [in "ELO:s"], the difference between
>> an automatically generated book [1.8Mb] from a .pgn of master games - and
>> the hand tailored one from Jeroen Noomen [maybe 10 times bigger]? I know
>> that Vincent had clear opinions on similar subjects.
>>
>> /s
>
>
>
>That's not the question I would ask.
>
>I would ask the same question as Uri did: in how many games has Tiger's book
>been an advantage during this match?
>
>
>
>    Christophe


 I think both questions are interesting.

 A) The general estimated difference between an automatically generated
    book - and a hand tailored one (made by a professional book maker
    especially for a certain program), 10 times (?) bigger.

 B) The specific difference between these books - as shown in this limited
    match between Ruffian and Tiger. A small sample - but still.


 /s



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