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Subject: Re: SSDF(Chess Tiger 15 - Ruffian 1.0.1)A1200, 1.5-2.5, now 20.5-16.5

Author: Sune Larsson

Date: 07:26:06 12/28/02

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On December 28, 2002 at 08:19:57, José Carlos wrote:

>On December 27, 2002 at 09:35:21, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On December 27, 2002 at 00:15:44, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>On December 26, 2002 at 23:37:13, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 11:05:34, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 10:39:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On December 26, 2002 at 10:06:35, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Nice Result for Ruffian (with his simply book too!) !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Tiger beats Df7 too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Go Ruffian go!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Is there an evidence that Ruffian has an inferior book?
>>>>>>Did people analyze the game to find if Tiger got better positions from the
>>>>>>opening?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>
>>>>>I was going to ask the same question, can somebody show me at least 5 games
>>>>>where Ruffian got an inferior opening position than CT15?
>>>>>
>>>>>Pichard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The reasoning behind that is that Ruffian is so strong that if it loose the
>>>>match it can only be because it has an inferior book.
>>>>
>>>>Don't break people's dreams... :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>> And beyond the dreams one realizes that there in fact could be many reasons...
>>> But how would you yourself estimate [in "ELO:s"], the difference between
>>> an automatically generated book [1.8Mb] from a .pgn of master games - and
>>> the hand tailored one from Jeroen Noomen [maybe 10 times bigger]? I know
>>> that Vincent had clear opinions on similar subjects.
>>>
>>> /s
>>
>>
>>
>>That's not the question I would ask.
>
>  Sune's question is much more interesting, because if the difference is not
>big, professional book makers are a waste of money, and I don't believe you
>waste money on purpose.
>
>  José C.


 I think that, for some people, the sudden prescence of a *free* engine
 with Ruffian's strength of play - is very far from sweet wine and gratitude...
 More like very sour grapes...;-)

 /s
>
>
>>I would ask the same question as Uri did: in how many games has Tiger's book
>>been an advantage during this match?
>>
>>
>>
>>    Christophe



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