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Subject: Re: SSDF Rating List

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:29:53 09/23/98

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On September 23, 1998 at 16:04:32, Peter W. Gillgasch wrote:

>Dear Ossi,
>
>excuse me, but this whole discussion about "cheating / secret"
>autoplayers is silly unless I am missing something obvious.
>
>Exactly what prevents an interested party to have a trip
>to Sweden to hang either a serial analyzer into the serial port
>(hint: costs less than a chess program) of the Fritz machine while
>it plays games or even better, hook up a PeeCee with a terminal
>program instead of a PeeCee with another chess program and play
>manually via the serial line or even *much* better route the
>stuff through a 3rd PeeCee which logs the data to the harddisc
>(even a modest DOS biggot can write such a program in less than
>15 lines of 'C' code) and let it run all night, then inspect
>the logs.
>
>The Swedes could do this themselves.



I believe this is all nonsense, based on Ed's comments.  He wrote a special
version of Rebel to capture all the auto232 traffic and found *nothing*
wrong.  This is not a secret, it has been publicized for a long time now,
yet it still keeps showing up (the secret cheating autoplayer).  It is a
crock.  Secret yes.  But that is all.  The rest of the topic is simply a
crock.  I don't even understand why it keeps coming up.  Unless it has
something to do with Fritz remaining on top?


>
>Unless ChessBase has written replacements for the auto232
>drivers of the other chess programs and the signals are
>scrambled and translated by that I see no problem to
>check this out. F5 certainly doesn't require some strange
>unkown driver to be installed on the *opponent* machine ?!
>
>So, has this been tried ? If not, why ? If yes, why I have
>I seen no posting of the "devilish, satanic" log files ?
>
>Since you all are intelligent persons I assume that the
>real reason why you are angry about the issue is the fact
>that you can't do automatic testing versus F5. But this is
>another issue.
>
>In that case, this whole wogwash *in the name of fairness*
>is pure marketing speak, easily identified by anyone who
>ever saw a PeeCee from the rear :)
>
>There are probably good reasons to be upset about the
>situation, but "devilish, satanic, cheating" autoplayers
>are certainly not among them.
>
>-- Peter



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