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Subject: About Stupidity, Moderation and the Future of CCC

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 20:43:36 09/23/98



The “sortie” of Thorsten has rekindled once again the old issue of how we pamper
the baby without killing him. It is clear CCC will not resist too much time as a
living and creative site if more people is going out due to his attacks on this
or that guy, followed in the next step by his expulsion. So pressing is this
that many post has been dedicated to the task to look for another method of
moderation: some of them, IMHO, are a lot worst that the illness they try to
cure.
I only can say that I have reached the following conclusion: in a discussion
group, moderation is not possible without killing the discussion in the long
run.
How could it be other way? Do you know a discussion where very soon personal,
vicious attacks does not arise? Even theologians are prone to shoot each other
discussing about the third or fourth attribute of Christ. How can you rule human
passions without killing human passion, a necessary attribute of any discussion
to begin with?
Easy to say “ you can discuss these matters without getting personal”. Wrong:
every issue becomes personal when discussed long enough. Sooner or later EGO is
involved and war begins. Nobody wants to appear as the guy that shut the mouth
after a broadside was shot at him. Everybody want to say the last word.
Everybody is willing to scalate the conflict in order not to appear as the
defeated side.
What this means?
It means that if we are not capable of living with that, we soon will be not
capable of living with CCC anymore. We have lost Chris, we have lost Sean, now
we lost Thosrten. Who will be the next? Will this site, be governed undirectly
by the delicate skin of those that cannot sustain an attack?
I know I said something different a couple of days ago. I said that Thortsten
really went beyond limits and that the things had not remedy.  And in fact it is
so, IF WE persist with the moderation kind of site CCC is now. Not that the
moderators has made a bad job, but they are trapped by the system; they are
compelled to do a job that is heading toward the peace of cemeteries. I cannot
see much sense in putting Amir, Bruce and Don in the task to look the site hour
after hour in order to detect undesirable material or answering petitions of
expulsions, etc. I think they have the right to live easy lives, quite lives,
programming lives and not expend his time in this unfruitful task.
What is the solution, then?
Is so easy or should be or at least is in words: nobody is coerced to read an
insulting post and nobody should feel idiot because a post say he is. My
experience in this is not exactly the same as that of those that were permanent
targets, BUT I have received here and there some post where I was treated as a
thief -the piracy thread- or a guy that was saying something stupid. Did I ask
some “protection”?  My system is take a look at what is said to me and
objectively see if what they say are at least partly right, if not entirely. If
so, even the harsh words are useful. As a chess player I have learned to learn
from my mistakes. I don't  give a blow to Fritz each time he gets me badly and
besides he makes an ironic commentary. If the attack has not ground -and in my
profession as journalist I receive a lot of them, grounded and not grounded- why
should I became worried about? I do not care if someone thinks I was defeated or
mistaken; I am grown-up enough to feel confident in myself when I think I am
right and not to worry too much if I am in the wrong side. To commit mistakes is
the destiny of all of us even in the craft we best know and sometimes a good,
fresh, sharp insult and deprecation could be a good healing method to avoid them
next time. I am not stupid but I have been stupid many times. I have been stupid
even in the issues I handle best. Of course, as everybody else, I prefer to be
considered a bright genius, a wonderful guy, but that is not very useful after
all; an acusation of imbecility has been many times a great asset to improve my
work, a kind of purification even if repeated, wrong, malignant. Even these
serve a purpose if you are strong enough to put them in use. .
But then, if you are not strong enough to see things in that way, you always
have the resource not to read something unpleasant. I do that all the time
because I am not. There are people here whose style is very harsh when something
does not fit with his tastes and  so, when the issue they are writing about is
non chess and computers and I see that they are going to the kind of sentences I
do  not like, I just stop reading and go for another post. Ii is so difficult to
do so?
By example: maybe one of you will think this post is awfully stupid and they
will say it in a way or another. Well, if they do, I will get angry, of course,
but then I will see my post again to detect the stupid things that really were
said ; if I meet some, I will be thankful to the guy; if not, I will be
indifferent. And if I feel in the vein of waging  war; I will launch my own
attack. Sometimes a good quarrel is very good for the spirit, kind of storm to
clear the sky. What I will not do is asking the expulsion of the guy.
I think this is the only way.
Fernando



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