Author: Uri Blass
Date: 08:27:26 02/09/03
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On February 09, 2003 at 11:21:58, Alastair Scott wrote: >On February 08, 2003 at 10:24:18, Anthony Martini wrote: > >> NO agreed upon draws before move 50... period... NO Exceptions... >> (wasn't this tried before - what happened?) >> >> ...Ok, so this would not be fair in Man vs. Machine tournaments, where men >>(women) get tired and computers do not. But not for anything, Kas did get >>$625,000 - he could of at least made another 22 moves. Could you imagine any >>professional sporting event where both teams agreed on a draw before the end of >>the game??? > >Draws are an intrinsic part of chess and are difficult to 'design out'. With >your example it's a certainty that draws by perpetual check or repetition in >less than 50 moves would be memorised and played. Best of luck to anyone trying >to prove collusion! > >> Agreed upon draws early in chess are completely ludicrous and detrimental >>to the advance of chess. Chess had a nationally televised audience and what did >>we do - we left everybody hanging with an interseting posistion with a lot of >>play left. It's like having a delicious dinner served to you, and the host takes >>the plate away before you get to taste the main course. > >As attempts to forbid draws or make them difficult to achieve are probably >futile I suggest some sort of scheme (those more conversant with game theory can >tweak the numbers to try to remove any unfairnesses that appear on analysis, but >the 4:2:1 ratio feels right) where: > >i. If game 1 is decisive, the winner gets 4 points and the loser 0; > >i. If game 1 is drawn, it has no value and another game is played; > >ii. If game 2 is decisive, the winner gets 2 points and the loser 0; > >ii. If game 2 is also drawn, both players get 1 point. > >So the five possible results are 4-0, 0-4, 2-0, 0-2 and 1-1 and, if people are >determined to draw, they have to work harder for inferior scores for good >measure ... > >Alastair 2 players of equal strength may agree that white wins in all their game and score in average more points by that way. Uri
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