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Subject: Re: Rebel and Win XP

Author: Matt Taylor

Date: 11:03:33 02/14/03

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On February 13, 2003 at 10:14:45, Russell Reagan wrote:

>IMO this is not a fault of Ed, but a fault of Windows XP and Microsoft. Instead
>of directing your frustration at Ed, who has shown himself to be one of the most
>generous people in this community, perhaps you should direct your frustration at
>Microsoft for removing support for older programs.
>
>I'm sure you won't get far with Microsoft though, since this is one of their
>primary plans of bleeding every last cent they can get from the public. They get
>you hooked on something, then they quit supporting it and force you to buy their
>new product, leading to situations such as these. Your situation is common,
>where someone gets upset about something like this, but you see the same person
>buying the new version of Windows a year later. That's kind of like banging your
>head against the wall and saying, "ouch! that really hurts!", and then doing it
>again.
>
>In any case, Ed has done more than his fair share. If you want to use Rebel, you
>have plenty of options if you desire to use his software badly enough.

When you consider that DOS was canned 7 & 1/2 years ago, it is also hard to
blame Microsoft.

In actuality, DOS still hasn't been phazed out. Windows XP supports DOS programs
with graphics and sound. I have a couple nostalgic DOS games from the 1995 era,
and every now & again I fire them up and play. I don't use VMware. I don't use
any sort of emulation. I don't dual-boot. My workstation runs Windows XP. My
only complaint is biweekly patching.

XP's problems with DOS are present in all versions of NT. It has trouble with
the VESA modes, but the VDMSound manual mentions that in full-screen it can do a
little more.

XP also has trouble with programs that rely on address wrap-around. IIRC, the
Intel 386 manual explicitly states that address wrap-around shouldn't be relied
upon. The DJGPP people relied on it. Things compiled with DJGPP broke on NTVDM.
The latest version of DJGPP fixes this as well as a host of other bugs.

By the way, I can think of no API-level stuff that Microsoft has stopped
supporting. There may be some, but it is *old*. As for products, Microsoft is a
business, and it is normal for a business to stop supporting older versions of
their software. The -first- thing I see in any troubleshooting guide is, "Do you
have the latest version of the software?"

-Matt



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