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Subject: Re: Itanium2 Testing Crafty & Tinker Informal Results

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 16:12:24 02/16/03

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On February 16, 2003 at 18:17:32, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On February 16, 2003 at 16:50:48, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>>I have been running some informal Itanium2 tests with Tinker and Crafty (18.15).
>>The results are not encouraging.  I know Bob Hyatt has posted better numbers >for
>
>Every piece of data I've seen contradicts Bob's claim.  As a wild guess, I might
>say he saw multi-CPU numbers that either got reported as single-CPU, or someone
>just assumed they were single-CPU numbers.  However, I haven't actually seen the
>numbers Bob saw - there is some chance that what he reported is accurate.


Eugene supplied some of the numbers.  Someone inside intel supplied others.
Since, as I have said, I have never had my hands on one of these things, I
don't have any test results that I can publish as "run by me" as I can post
for my various hardware choices I do have access to.

However, the alpha numbers in SPEC are way below the numbers that I _do_ have
logs for for a 21264 at 600mhz:

total positions searched..........         300
number right......................         300
number wrong......................           0
percentage right..................         100
percentage wrong..................           0
total nodes searched.............. 236973211.0
average search depth..............         4.5
nodes per second..................      783641

That was one cpu.  The next is for a dual 21264 at 600mhz:

total positions searched..........         300
number right......................         300
number wrong......................           0
percentage right..................         100
percentage wrong..................           0
total nodes searched.............. 330905102.0
average search depth..............         4.5
nodes per second..................     1266767


This version was _prior_ to our "lockless hash algorithm" which made the
SMP scaling much better on the alpha, in terms of raw NPS...

The above I can produce the log files for, for anyone interested in seeing
the results for all 300 wac positions...




>
>>Itanium2, but I can’t come even close.  Then again, I am no professional
>>compiler developer or performance engineer.
>
>As you pointed out near the very end, the Intel/HP people who submitted the SPEC
>scores didn't do much better.  I would hope that they _are_ professional
>performance engineers.
>
>>  Anyway, here is the data (Knps).
>
>[SNIP]
>
>>I was not able to get profiling to work, nor did I try Vtune.
>
>From what I understand, profiling is quite important for Itanium to get good
>results.  This is why even the base SPEC scores were achieved with profiling
>runs, AFAIK.
>
>>The results are more or less in line with the SPEC CPU2000int results for Crafty
>>(see www.spec.org), some of which are (run times in seconds):
>>
>>Hewlett-Packard Company hp server rx2600 (1000 MHz, Itanium 2)
>>186.crafty 128
>>
>>Advanced Micro Devices Epox 8KHA+ Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP 1900+ (CPU
>>MHz: 1600)
>>186.crafty 106
>>
>>Intel Corporation Intel D850EMVR motherboard (3.06 GHz, Pentium 4 processor with
>>HT Technology)
>>186.crafty 86
>>
>>Advanced Micro Devices ASUS A7N8X (REV 1.02) Motherboard, AMD Athlon (TM) XP
>>2800+ (CPU MHz: 2250)
>>186.crafty 76.3



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