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Subject: Re: Answers (Chess reasoning in CC)

Author: Rolf Tueschen

Date: 04:38:38 02/17/03

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On February 17, 2003 at 07:07:57, Peter Berger wrote:

>On February 16, 2003 at 18:19:40, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2003 at 18:13:42, Peter Berger wrote:
>>
>>>On February 16, 2003 at 17:59:14, Rolf Tueschen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 16, 2003 at 17:48:19, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>No Rolf, my comment is only about chess - I am convinced that Nxg4 is simply the
>>>>>very strongest move and everything else is garbage. Feel welcome to challenge
>>>>>this assessment with analysis either of your own or published one - but please
>>>>>don't forget to add another move that leads to at least a position of similar
>>>>>merit.
>>>>>
>>>>>I think Nxg4 is a very good example for a move played by a computer that looks
>>>>>weak to amateurs unless they spend a lot of time looking at the position and has
>>>>>the potential to even fool players of higher strength. It looks messy, but is
>>>>>strong.
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards,
>>>>>Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ok, let's take only that chess question. You say the move is fantastic?
>>>
>>>OK ;) - yes I actually do in fact.
>>>
>>>So it
>>>>wins? I say it is a bad LINE and perhaps Nxg4 is the "best" move. But it is
>>>>still in a bad line. Michael said Black must avoid the 0-0. Read his message. He
>>>>also gives the neccessary moves. I won't imposter with his moves.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I have analyzed the game - I didn't follow the thread you are referring to.
>>>Please point me to the post you want to discuss.
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>Peter
>>
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?284683
>
>OK - I get your point now. First you said that Sxg4 was a horrible move - here I
>contradicted as I disagree and think it is the only and best move. I didn't
>expect you to change topics so fast
>
>For an expert opinion about Nxg4:
>
>http://www.worldchessrating.com/522004712.html?282334552146494
>
>Now you say you want to discuss O-O and think this is a very weak move not
>worthy of a super-grandmaster. I agree that this move might be bad, although I
>don't think it is that horrible at all - I have seen much worse played by human
>super-grandmasters.
>
>Peter


I did not _change_ topics. O-O is an absolute must for the judgement about the
quality of Nxg4. Simply by evaluating both moves seperately is no solution. But
I think that all that has been discussed. In combination with O-O the move Nxg4
is horrible, no matter if you agree or disagree. Certain questions have no
personal background. What is your rating in chess, do you play tournaments?

Rolf Tueschen



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