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Subject: To Sally Weltrop

Author: Charles Worthington

Date: 05:58:14 02/18/03

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On February 18, 2003 at 02:30:52, Sally Weltrop wrote:

>On February 17, 2003 at 23:51:46, Charles Worthington wrote:
>
>>Bob please tell me that I didn't just spend 18,900$ on this Dual 3.06 xeon
>>ststem for no reason...I certainly hope there will be a significant performance
>>increase over the amd 2400mp and xp. The fastest AMD on playchess pulls around
>>2300 kns with deep fritz 7. I had hoped with dual 3.06 xeons and the new intel
>>E7505 chipset i would exceed 3000 kNs. Was this unreasonable of me to expect
>>this much speed?
>
>U can always send it back

Sure I could send it back. But I am a stock broker and I also use the Dual Xeons
for business applications beyond chess. Yes the AMD systems are less expensive
but it has been my experience that you tend to get what you pay for. For
Business applications and engineering applications the Xeon will dust any AMD on
the market. AMD is great for gaming! In single cpu systems they do seem to
outperform the p4 on a elo per MHz basis but dual systems are a whole different
story and there has been little testing on the chessbase server with newer
high-end xeon systems because for most such tests are cost-prohibited. I won't
knock the Xeon system until I have it in hand and have the opportunity to test
it along with the new E7505 Chipset. Once the system is in hand I will run
DeepFritzMark tests with hyperthreading disabled and then enabled at different
hash settings and post the results here. My 2.8 GHz P4 with a 64MB hash has a
fritzmark of 1319 and is in the ballpark of 1038kNs (Dell Dimension 8200, 533MHz
FSB, 512MB PC800 RDRAM). I have seen many exagerated fritzmark claims here in
some of the postings. I expect in the ballpark of 2500 kNs with Deep Fritz 7 on
the Dual 3.06 Xeons perhaps a hair more if the hyperthreading works well with
deep fritz 7. All I am saying is lets be fair and not judge the Xeon systems
until I have had a chance to test the processors with the new E7505 chip set and
the DDR RAM.



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