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Subject: Re: $333.70 per elo point over my pc..

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 17:15:09 02/22/03

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On February 22, 2003 at 17:22:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 22, 2003 at 01:35:33, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>Itanium is supposed to go into the mainframe-class machines.  Alpha/HP-PA are
>>being killed by HP, in favor of Itanium.  MIPS isn't a factor in the high-end
>>anymore
>
>???  Better tell SGI...  And Cray of course as they are shipping huge
>alpha machines.

Individual MIPS processors are nowhere near performance leading, and I've seen
very few results from MIPS machines lately.  Just because some machines are
being sold doesn't mean they're much of a factor in the high-end market.
They're a bit like SPARC in that respect.

I can imagine that a lot of customers still want to buy Alpha machines, as it is
performance leading even with quite an old core (The core hasn't changed much
from EV6 to EV7, and EV79 is rumored to be intentionally crippled to make
Itanium look better).  Had they continued to develop it agressively, they might
have a huge performance lead right now.  HP is contractually obligated to
'support' (produce and sell) Alpha until EV79 is released.  After that, they are
going to stop producing them altogether.  They have cast their entire lot with
Itanium, killing HP-PA and Alpha in the process.



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