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Subject: Re: The mistake in the ssdf list

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:34:30 10/03/98

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On October 03, 1998 at 05:55:07, blass uri wrote:

>
>On October 03, 1998 at 05:35:18, jonathan Baxter wrote:
>
>>On October 03, 1998 at 04:09:23, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>In the ssdf list a program are playing long matches and I do not like it because
>>>it gives an advantage to programs that are strong in learning a specific
>>>opponent
>>>
>>>I suspect that fritz5 is a program that is strong in learning a specific
>>>opponent
>>>
>>>I am not against learning but I think that it is better not to play against the
>>>same oponent again and again.
>>>
>>>It is better for example that fritz5 will play the first game against Genius5,
>>>the second game against Mchesspro7, the third game against Nimzo98...
>>>
>>>If it has not enough opponents and have to play against the same opponent many
>>>times then at least it should play against other opponents before it plays
>>>a game against the same opponent.
>>
>>I couldn't disagree more. Learning is a fundamental component of human thought
>>processes. Why rule it out of computer chess, or invent arbitrary rules like you
>>suggest to restrict the way the learning works??
>
>because practically you cannot use the learning  in tournaments against unknown
>opponents by playing against them again and again.
>
>The results of the SSDF list proves that Fritz5 is number 1 in matches but maybe
>it is not relevant to tournaments with unknown opponents
>
>Uri
>>
>>Jonathan Baxter


Your "scope" it "too narrow".  You are thinking of learning on a "per-event"
basis.  I am thinking of learning as a "lifetime" basis.  IE things I learn
in matches played *before* a tournament will most certainly help me do
better *during* the tournament.  And learning will also help me avoid
repeated losses during the event as well...



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