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Subject: Re: Hyper-Threading Technology from Intel-to Hype or Not to Hype?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 08:37:48 03/05/03

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On March 05, 2003 at 10:20:05, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 05, 2003 at 02:05:30, Aaron Gordon wrote:
>
>and those AMD chips are way faster than the intels too :)

I'm still waiting for a > 2.1M nps number from Crafty's benchmark, no
.craftyrc/crafty.rc
file used.  My 2.8 produced 2.16M nodes per second on the raw benchmark
number...

Of course this machine doesn't exist, so the numbers are imaginary.


>
>>On March 04, 2003 at 21:57:58, Nolan Denson wrote:
>>
>>>There are no draw backs when looking to get a computer that using
>>>Hyper-Threading. If you do not like the feature you can just simply turn it off.
>>>There are many system on the market that claims to be Hyper Threading enabled.
>>>Intel has a utility program that checks for Hyper Threading ...
>>>
>>>1. You must have the proper CPU's.
>>>2. You must have the proper motherboard.
>>>3. You bios must support it.
>>>4. Your Operating system must support it.
>>>
>>>Once these things are met your system will indicate that Hyper Threading is
>>>enable before booting into the Operating System.
>>>
>>>It is not an indication that you will see when the computer is turned on and the
>>>Bios is posting.
>>>
>>>Soon all of Intel processcor's will have Hyper Threading. So if what you are
>>>using your processor slows down with Hyper Threading, just simply turn it off
>>>via the Bios.
>>
>>How convenient. Have to reboot 20 times per day to turn it on/off just so your
>>applications run optimally. I'll be sticking with the cooler running, faster,
>>and cheaper AMD chips. :)
>>
>>>On March 04, 2003 at 17:39:42, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 04, 2003 at 16:32:33, Jay-R Delacruz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Do the deep versions of Fritz, Junior and Shredder support hyper-thread? Can
>>>>>someone please tell me before upgrading my PC to try the deep versions?
>>>>
>>>>I just read email from Frans Morsch. DeepFritz7 gets 5-10% speedup by
>>>>hyperthreading.
>>>>
>>>>Shredder gets more speedup in nodes a second than that, but it gets no speedup
>>>>from it as it gets SMP already a far smaller speedup (1.5 or so), so it is
>>>>smarter to turn SMT/HT off for it. perhaps shredder8 will fix this.
>>>>
>>>>For diep it speeds me up about 11% in NPS but i cannot garantuee that at a 4
>>>>processor it will give a positive speedup.
>>>>
>>>>When running 2 processes at a P4 at 3.06ghz it will give for sure some speedup
>>>>because it goes from 100k nps to 120k nps. Nearly 20% speedup it gets with it
>>>>(18.6 or something) which gives a positive speedup also in depth.
>>>>
>>>>For deepjunior we know that it already works bad at 8 processor Xeon 1.6Ghz
>>>>versus 4 processor Xeon 1.9Ghz, so i *assume* for now that SMT/HT will not give
>>>>it much benefit for it at all, but perhaps Amir or Shay wants to give a
>>>>statement regarding this themselves.
>>>>
>>>>We talk of course about the SMT/HT from Xeon processors up to 2.8Ghz now for
>>>>those which have it enabled. For the P4 3.06Ghz and also Xeons of that and above
>>>>things are a different matter.
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>Vincent



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