Author: Aaron Gordon
Date: 16:47:35 04/11/03
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On April 11, 2003 at 15:32:51, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >On April 11, 2003 at 05:21:18, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>On April 11, 2003 at 02:56:27, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >> >>>On April 11, 2003 at 00:12:10, Aaron Gordon wrote: >>> >>>>On April 10, 2003 at 20:37:39, Tom Kerrigan wrote: >>>> >>>>>On April 10, 2003 at 12:57:10, Aaron Gordon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>It's possible because Intel engineered their chips to have high MHz, low >>>>>>instructions per cycle. Why? Great for marketing. Most people don't know MHz >>>>> >>>>>I don't think so. >>>>> >>>>>It can't be a coincidence that this design principle that's "great for >>>>>marketing" also yielded a processor that's faster than the competition on most >>>>>benchmarks. >>>>> >>>>>-Tom >>>> >>>>I've been over this before, a LOT of pages are corrupt. Tomshardware for one >>>>fakes reviews, there's already proof of that. Anandtech still runs the biased >>> >>>It seems plausible to me that many hardware sites are biased/corrupt. >>> >>>That said, recent processor reviews have been roughly in line with SPEC CPU >>>scores, which are certainly not corrupt. >>> >>>It just irks me when people suggest that Intel wasted _millions_ of man hours >>>and their engineers' integrity "jacking up" their flagchip processor's clock >>>speed for marketing reasons instead of performance reasons. >>> >>>-Tom >> >>If it makes them X many billion more dollars, who cares? Intel sure doesn't.. as >>long as the cash is rolling in. :) > >Intel has done some underhanded things in its day (e.g., tried to strongarm >motherboard vendors to not support the Athlon), made some crap products >(Caminogate), pursued some crap ideas (Itanic), but ever since the original >Pentium, Intel's x86 chips have been marvels of forward-thinking engineering. >I'm not a fan of Intel's but I refuse to believe that the x86 engineers would >take their orders from some marketing clowns. If thats what makes them keep their job. I have a feeling they'll do as their told. If that means producing a CPU that has the IPC of a 486 in some applications, so be it. I'm sure the engineers would rather do something different, but that way may not make as much money. I'm sure 99% or more of the planets population hasn't a clue about MHz. With Intel releasing the P4 at high clock speeds, people will ask their local quasi-guru, "What makes a PC fast?".. he'll reply, "MHz!".. so they go grab a P4-2.4 instead of an AthlonXP 2800+/2.25ghz. Engineering wise, P4's are a disaster. As far as marketing goes, it's brilliant. All Intel has been since the Athlon was released was pure marketing. They even went as far to say (and this was on their main page before), "With the new Intel Pentium 3 your Internet experience will be faster than ever!" or something to that effect. Absolute nonsense. Also, alien commercials, etc, making people think you need a Pentium 4 to be able to do sound manipulation and Mp3's... go grab any 300MHz AMD/Intel CPU and it'll play mp3s and encode/decode just fine. >Intel may be afraid of releasing >relatively low-clocked chips but not afraid enough to prevent them from selling >the Pentium M... > >-Tom From what I saw their not even putting the clock speed on their new Centrino laptop stuff.. that way people can't see the low MHz. :P
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