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Subject: Re: Here are some actual numbers

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 04:42:28 04/13/03

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On April 12, 2003 at 23:39:22, Tom Kerrigan wrote:

>On April 12, 2003 at 22:44:09, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On April 11, 2003 at 16:53:59, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>>
>>>On April 11, 2003 at 10:58:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>I have explained "why not" before.
>>>>
>>>>My configuration is a dual 2.8.  I can't remove a CPU because I don't have a
>>>>terminator to
>>>>stick in the socket.  So I am stuck with two.  I can enable or disable SMT when
>>>>I boot the
>>>>machine.
>>>>
>>>>now tell me how to run the test.  Two copies might run on one physical cpu
>>>>(using two
>>>>logical cpus).  Or they might run on two physical cpus.  I have no control over
>>>>that.  And
>>>>they will bounce around between processors as they run.
>>>>
>>>>Your turn.  Tell me how to run a valid test and I'll let 'er rip.
>>>
>>>Actually a friend of mine has access to a P4/3.06 and I ran the test myself.
>>>Took less than 5 minutes.
>>>
>>>I opened two instances of my program and had them search the same position
>>>simultaneously and compared their NPS after ~10 seconds. I did this three times.
>>>Task Manager showed that both logical processors were pegged. The NPS ratios
>>>were:
>>>
>>>51%-49%
>>>49%-51%
>>>48%-52%
>>>
>>>It's pretty darn obvious that HT does not favor one logical processor more than
>>>another. (Contrary to Hyatt and Vincent's assertions.)
>>
>>I do not see why this is contrary to my assumption. What i see is that SMT
>>improves nps with say 15%. How that is divided between the 2 processes i didn't
>>write down anything about here.
>
>"with SMT that is not the case. the second cpu in SMT delivers somewhere between
>0% and 20%."
>
>-Tom

that was meant not in the hardware form but the actual impact upon software
which gets simply between 0 and 20% faster if your program can handle it.




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