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Subject: Re: Importance of TBs once more!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 06:27:18 10/13/98

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On October 13, 1998 at 02:12:24, Jouni Uski wrote:

>In SSDF game archive there is 5834 games. In 21 games there is KQ-KR ending.
>And 20 of these were won by Q side WITHOUT any use of TBs! Quite surprising -
>isn't this normally considered as difficult ending?

*only* if one side has a tablebase.  The defense (KR side) has to make
some difficult moves, and if it doesn't understand square control, the
queen can win.  IE another example is KBN vs K.  I played many test games
using Crafty vs gnuchess, for example, and tuned the bishop/knight code to
make this mate not very difficult.  Then I tried Crafty vs Crafty, with
the losing side having tablebases and it becomes *very* difficult.

Ditto for KQ vs KR...  but we could try that experiment to see, with Crafty
taking the KR side.  It would be interesting.  On a different note, before
I used tablebases, I got into KR vs KN endings three times against "WchessX"
and won all three, although this is a dead draw.  Some of the defenses are
simply too deep to spot with normal search, and the N gets trapped...




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