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Subject: Re: What is the lowest rated program tha can still solve this position ?

Author: Richard Pijl

Date: 01:49:08 04/22/03

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On April 21, 2003 at 18:24:45, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On April 21, 2003 at 18:09:03, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On April 21, 2003 at 17:18:46, Robin Smith wrote:
>>
>>>On April 20, 2003 at 17:20:11, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>It may be possible to use it in a productive way to avoid problems
>>>>that I mentioned(the program prefers loss by KR vs KPPP and not drawn KR vs KPP)
>>>>by having rules to trust tablebases scores only in part of the cases but I do
>>>>not like it.
>>>
>>>Uri,
>>>
>>>I know such things are possible in theory. Can you give an example of it
>>>actually happening?
>>>
>>>Robin
>>
>>No
>>If I remember correctly I saw a case when it happened but
>>I did not care to save the position and I do not plan
>>to look for it now.
>>
>>Uri
>
>[D] 8/8/8/7P/4K1P1/r6P/k7/8 b - - 0 1
>
>
>Anaconda 1.0 lost this position with tablebases.
>It would take the pawn without.
>
>Michael

The Baron 0.99.6 b7a (the newest I have on this computer :-( ) solves it with
3,4 men EGTB, giving a draw score soon:

 ply       time     nodes  score  pv

  5(10).      0     11535    135  a3h3 e4e5 a2b3 e5d4 h3c3
  6(10)&      0     15996    101  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 g4g5
  6(12).      0     46457    101  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 g4g5
  7(11)&      0     53795    108  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 h3c3 g4g5 b3c4
  7(14).      0    142688    108  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 h3c3 g4g5 b3c4
  8(12)&      1    164252     77  a3h3 e4f5 h3h4 f5g5 h4h2 g5g6 h2d2 g4g5 d2d6
g6f7 d6d7 f7f6 d7d6 f6f5 d6d5 f5g6 d5d6 <rep>
  8(15).      2    426745     77  a3h3 e4f5 h3h4 f5g5 h4h2 g5g6 h2d2 g4g5 d2d6
g6f7 d6d7 f7f6 d7d6 f6f5 d6d5 f5g6 d5d6 <rep>
  9(14)&      2    482290     59  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 h3c3 g4g5 c3c6 g6f5 c6c5
f5f6 b3c4
  9(18).      6   1083704     59  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 h3c3 g4g5 c3c6 g6f5 c6c5
f5f6 b3c4
 10(17)&      7   1213655     41  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 h3c3 g4g5 c3c7 h5h6 b3c3
g6f6 c7h7
 10(19).     14   2478991     41  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 h3c3 g4g5 c3c7 h5h6 b3c3
g6f6 c7h7
 11(19)&     16   2823787     35  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 h3c3
g6f6 c3c6 f6f5 c6c5 f5f6 c5c6 <rep>
 11(20).     30   5396645     35  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 h3c3
g6f6 c3c6 f6f5 c6c5 f5f6 c5c6 <rep>
 12(22)-     72  12790151      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 h3c3
h6h7 c3c8 g6g7 c8c7 g7g8 c7c8 g8g7 <rep>
 12(22)&     72  12829997      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 h3c3
g6h5 c3h3 h5g6 <rep>
 12(22).     72  12830012      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 h3c3
g6h5 c3h3 h5g6 <rep>
 13(23)&     80  14197935      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 d4e5
g6g7 e5f5 h6h7 f5g5
 13(23).    124  21396295      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 d4e5
g6g7 e5f5 h6h7 f5g5
 14(24)&    171  29094631      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 d4e5
g6g7 e5f5 h6h7 f5g5
 14(25).    260  43359685      0  a3h3 e4f5 a2b3 f5g6 b3c4 h5h6 c4d4 g4g5 d4e5
g6g7 e5f5 h6h7 f5g5


Richard.



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