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Subject: Re: King majority

Author: Günther Simon

Date: 06:45:31 05/08/03

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On May 07, 2003 at 18:43:19, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On May 07, 2003 at 12:46:20, Günther Simon wrote:
>
>>>>>>>[D]1R6/p3k1p1/7p/2b1pP2/P1r3P1/B7/7P/7K w - - 0 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1.Rc8! Kd6 2.Rxc5! Rxc5 3.h4!+- 1-0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Enrique
>>>>Deep Sjeng 1.4 Beta sees that it is winning after 1...Rc8 after 1 min 15 seconds
>>>>with a score of +1.90.  Hash 192 MB, P4, 2.4Mhz (with Verdi blaring in the
>>>>WinAmp background)...
>>>>
>>>>--Djordje
>>>
>>>
>>>Sorry for not submitting the analysis clip as I run Deep Sjeng under Winboard,
>>>not under the CB GUI.  Another thing, my machne is slightly faster than 2.4Mhz
>>>(the Z80 is long gone...), but 2.4Ghz, 1 GB RAM, Win 2000.  And yes, it was very
>>>easy to get what you were saying and interpret it as king side majority.  King
>>>side majority it is, of course, after the winning exchange on c5.
>>>
>>>--Djordje
>>
>>Deep Sjeng 1.0 128MB hash not in 5:11 on a PIII650, 384MB Ram
>>(only Norton Virus in the background)
>>Looks like some progress at least in this position :)
>>(even when my machine is perhaps 3 - 3.5 times slower as a PIV 2.4Ghz)


>I needn't use the debug command in Winboard, I could have simply set the logging
>option on, which I did not do as I had stopped testing the previous beta
>version. The logging is on while testing a new version.  Thus, one could get all
>the info needed from the log... BTW, I can see no 1...Rc8 planned for Black in
>your transcript!
>
>Rgds,

Yes, the Sjeng log is even simpler to set :)
(I totally forgot about that because I am used to work a lot
and almost with WB debug files)
Below it is: (BTW only all 4men were set up)
Regarding your last note I wrote, did _not_ find in 5:11 etc...
therefore I asked if the Deep beta made some progress, perhaps
you missed that?

Best regards,
Günther
http://home.t-online.de/home/g.simon.rgbg/



tellics set 1 Deep Sjeng 1.0 (Feb 12 2003)
random
level 40 240 0
post
hard
easy
ping 4
pong 4
force
setboard 1R6/p3k1p1/7p/2b1pP2/P1r3P1/B7/7P/7K w - - 0 1
black
time 1440000
otim 1440000
white
go
Endgame phase.
Time for move : 52679
 3      98     6     1684  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7
 3      98     6     1684  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7
 3      98     6     3053  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7
 4     113     6     5700  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Ke7 Re6+ Kf7
 4     113     6     5700  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Ke7 Re6+ Kf7
 4     113    11     9184  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Ke7 Re6+ Kf7
 5      91    16    16909  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4
 5      91    16    16909  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4
 5      91    22    26419  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4
 6      93    27    45913  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 a5 e3 a6
 6      93    27    45913  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 a5 e3 a6
 6      93    38    68762  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 a5 e3 a6
 7      43    49    95450  Bxc5+ ??
 7      45    71   147197  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Ra1+ Kg2 a5
 7      45    71   147197  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Ra1+ Kg2 a5
 7      45    88   181811  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Ra1+ Kg2 a5
 8      88   115   249358  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Ra1+ Kg2 Ra2+ Kf3 a5
 8      88   115   249358  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Ra1+ Kg2 Ra2+ Kf3 a5
 8      88   154   356494  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Ra1+ Kg2 Ra2+ Kf3 a5
 9      66   220   498266  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Rf4 f7 a5 Kg2 a4
 9      66   225   498266  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Rf4 f7 a5 Kg2 a4
 9      66   319   753602  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rxg7 Rxa4 f6 Rf4 f7 a5 Kg2 a4
10      24   538  1234562  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rc7+ Kd5 Rxg7 Rxa4 Rd7+ Kc6 Rh7
Kd5 f6 a5 f7
10      24   538  1234562  Rb7+ Kd6 Bxc5+ Kxc5 Rc7+ Kd5 Rxg7 Rxa4 Rd7+ Kc6 Rh7
Kd5 f6 a5 f7
10      46   763  1706575  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Re6+ Kf4 f6 Kf3
h4 Rc1+ Kh2
10      46   763  1706575  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Re6+ Kf4 f6 Kf3
h4 Rc1+ Kh2
10      46   890  2022812  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Re6+ Kf4 f6 Kf3
h4 Rc1+ Kh2
11      83  1428  3267386  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Kf7 h3 e4 Kg2 Rc2+
Kg3 e3 a5
11      83  1428  3267386  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Kf7 h3 e4 Kg2 Rc2+
Kg3 e3 a5
11      83  1697  4031112  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Kf7 h3 e4 Kg2 Rc2+
Kg3 e3 a5
12      70  2109  5115992  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Kf7 h3 e4 a5 e3 Re6
Rc1+ Kg2 Re1
12      70  2115  5115992  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Kf7 h3 e4 a5 e3 Re6
Rc1+ Kg2 Re1
12      70  3191  7970133  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc4 Ra6+ Kf7 h3 e4 a5 e3 Re6
Rc1+ Kg2 Re1
13     103  4828 11806762  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 Kg2 h5 Kg3 hxg4 Kxg4 e3
Kf3 Re5 Ke2 Kxf5 Rxg7
13     103  4828 11806762  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 Kg2 h5 Kg3 hxg4 Kxg4 e3
Kf3 Re5 Ke2 Kxf5 Rxg7
13     103  6536 16288979  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 e4 Kg2 h5 Kg3 hxg4 Kxg4 e3
Kf3 Re5 Ke2 Kxf5 Rxg7
14      70 10227 25016998  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 e3
Rxg7 e2 Re7+ Kf4 Kg1 Kxg4 f6
14      70 10227 25016998  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 e3
Rxg7 e2 Re7+ Kf4 Kg1 Kxg4 f6
14      70 16577 40845562  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 e3
Rxg7 e2 Re7+ Kf4 Kg1 Kxg4 f6
15      70 20136 49375523  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 h5
gxh5 e3 Re6+ Kf4 a6 Kf3 Re7
15      70 20136 49375523  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 h5
gxh5 e3 Re6+ Kf4 a6 Kf3 Re7
15      70 31115 76749721  Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 h5
gxh5 e3 Re6+ Kf4 a6 Kf3 Re7
Used time : 31115
tellics whisper d15 +0.70 Bxc5+ Rxc5 Rb7+ Kf6 Rxa7 Rc2 a5 e4 Ra6+ Ke5 Rg6 h5
gxh5 e3 Re6+ Kf4 a6 Kf3 Re7 egtb: 3 time: 311.15 nps: 246664
Learning score: 70  best: 7  depth:15
NPS: 246664
EGTB Hits: 3  EGTB Probes: 3
SMP splits: 0   semi-bad: 0   bad: 0
move a3c5


>Djordje



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