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Subject: Re: Which program can see the draw in the 2nd game of DB vs Kasparov ?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 11:55:10 05/28/03

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On May 28, 2003 at 11:17:00, Ricardo Gibert wrote:

>On May 28, 2003 at 11:00:06, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On May 28, 2003 at 00:57:00, Ricardo Gibert wrote:
>>
>>>On May 28, 2003 at 00:10:32, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 27, 2003 at 19:11:49, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>After being completely out-played for the entire game, and with imminent defeat
>>>>>on the horizon, Kasparov resigned the 2nd game rather than drag out the
>>>>>humiliation. But Deep Blue had made a critical error, allowing Kasparov a
>>>>>perpetual check. The analysis is quite deep and extends slightly beyond Deep
>>>>>Blue's search horizon. And, apparently, also Kasparov's. Kasparov's team, which
>>>>>included Grandmaster Yuri Dokhoian and Frederic Friedel, were faced with the
>>>>>delicate task of revealing the news to Kasparov. They waited until lunch the
>>>>>next day, after he had had a nice glass of wine to drink. After they revealed
>>>>>the hidden drawing resource, Kasparov sunk into deep thought (no pun intended)
>>>>>for five minutes before he conceded that he had missed a draw. He later claimed
>>>>>that this was the first time he had resigned a drawn position.
>>>>>
>>>>>Six years later, which program can see the draw in the famous 2nd game of the
>>>>>rematch?
>>>>>
>>>>>Jorge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>NO program sees this.  It is about 60 plies deep.  It is unlikely that a
>>>>program will see it for quite some time to come, in fact...
>>>
>>>
>>>Whenever this comes up, you always say "about 60 plies", but I can't find
>>>anything to corroborate this. Let's see your analysis.
>>
>>The best analysis I specifically remember was posted on Ed's web site a few
>>years ago.  I didn't save it as it was not particularly "interesting" to me.
>>
>>It might still be available however...
>
>
>http://www.rebel.nl/db2.htm
>
>He only gives 36 plies. A far cry from "about 60 plies"


OK...  then that may not be the deepest drawing line.

However, he does point out the difficulty of finding one particular non-checking
move way deep into the tree...




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