Author: Sandro Necchi
Date: 02:29:15 05/31/03
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On May 31, 2003 at 05:02:17, m.d.hurd wrote: Hi, >I think the SSDF do a great job as well. As regards the Chessmaster series its >down to Ubisoft to get their act together and add autoplayer functionality. Yes, I think the same. > >On the topic of Shredder 7.04 are you saying that the opening book in the UCI >tournament mode is more selective than tournament mode in Chessbase GUI, that >is, the Chessbase GUI plays moves even in tournament mode (Optomise)that UCI in >tournament mode will not play. If so then why was the shredder.ctg not adjusted >accordingly to match the UCI shredder.bkt ? Well, there are 2 way to read the book in ChessBase: 1. Tournament which is the same as Standard in UCI 2. Wide which is the same as wide in UCI In UCI there is another one more selective which is the tournament mode. The difference between standard and tournament in UCI is that d moves are played only in std. while the tournament play only moves rated c to a. Even if I change the book for CB still the tournament version of UCI will be different. > >Is there a list of these moves that Chessbase users could use to fine tune their >Shredder.ctg accordingly ? Or perhaps this is not practical to do. It can be done. > >Do you know if there might be another update to the engine before Shredder 8 ? I do not think so. We are still working to make another good (stronger) program version (Shredder 8). > >Congratulations to you and Stefan on the success of Shredder 7.04. Thanks, but this is only Stefan work! I take care of the book only! > >Regards > >Mike Ciao Sandro > > > > > > > > > >On May 31, 2003 at 04:13:54, Sandro Necchi wrote: > >>I am glad that SSDF decited to test Shredder 7.04 under UCI gui. >> >>The reason is that this program may be the first one to cross the 1800 Elo >>barrier on the SSDF list. >> >>Some time ago I stated that 7.04 was about 20 points stronger that 7.0, but this >>was based looking some game of a previous version. In reality, and testing made >>by many chess funs, gives a little more: >>betwen 22 to 30 points. >> >>So, considering that the UCI gui with tournament book selection should give at >>least 15 points more, it possible to get a rating on a K7 1200 of 2805 to 2810 >>Elo points. >> >>We'll see if these considerations will be confirmed. >> >>About the SSDF not willing to test CM9000 I think people that do not know SSDF >>long enough like me, are saing unfair things on them. >> >>First of all they do this as a hobby and because they love computer chess. To >>claim that their are sponsored by ChessBase is so “non sense” and does not need >>any reply. >> >>What a programmer should do to have its program tested is to send them 3 copies >>of the program with clear instructions for settings and how to run it. >>Also that program MUST include the autoplayer as it would take TOO MANY human >>resources to test it in the normal way, like when the autoplayer was not >>available. >> >>The point is that if they have TO USE ALL THEIR TESTERS to test a program in >>the “old” way, this would probably not be acceptable to them as other >>programmers would complain. >> >>I do not know how many testers they have now because the latest contacts I had >>with them were about 10 year ago. >> >>I personally DO NOT and WILL NOT BUY or run ANY CHESS PROGRAM, even if 4000 Elo >>strong if does not have the autoplayer. >> >>I also believe that using a different book for running a program is no sense as >>the opening book is part of the program. >> >>It is like to drive a Ferrari with another engine. It is not the same and to me >>means nothing. >> >>I know some people will not agree, but even if I respect them and their >>opininions I have my own opinion which I stated above. >> >>Ciao >>Sandro
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