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Subject: Re: ChessBase continues the Show that was begun with Kasparov

Author: Mike S.

Date: 12:40:04 06/19/03

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On June 19, 2003 at 14:35:35, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>Neither me. But look, Mike. The whole event in NY was a show event to make PR.
>Now ChessbAse tried to make PR with Kasparov say img that the Junior that played
>Kasparov came with it. Can you be so honest and declare that this is a cheat
>when the engine that played Kasparov does not come with it? It's ridiculous how
>you try to do your usual job as spin doctor for CheeseBase. Instead of saying
>that they are known for doing hot air. Just read their webpages, in spoecial the
>ones in English by Freddie.

(I knew you'd inavoidably come with that spin doctor thing again.)

I don't spin anything. It would have been, or actually is, easy for CB. to
advertise Junior 8 with something like "this is the single CPU version of the
latest Junior engine developement, *based on* the program that has drawn the
match against Kasparov." - Which it definetely is. New chess engine versions are
always based on the predecessors. If they would have written just that (only),
then I guess nobody would have demanded a match engine which was at an earlier
state of developement.

But to announce the original match engine for the single CPU edition too, was
just a simple mistake, resulting from the fact that CB. wanted to offer *more*
to the customer (what they can do currently for the Deep Junior 8 version
only)... they took the same text as for the Deep version, obviously. But there
exists no single cpu version from the match engine(s) as we were informed.

To call that a "cheat" is a wrong estimation of their integrity and their
intelligence at the same time.

I have no clear opinion upon what has to be done now, if someone insists on that
additional engine he didn't get... you could see it either as a "free bonus"
which wasn't included in contrast to the advertising text as it was at first, or
as a part of the product itself (although, the product consists of all the usual
components for the usual price basically, like it's known from Fritz or Hiarcs).

I wonder if it isn't possible to to "simply" permanently disable the SMP
function of the match engines... IOW, limit CPU= to 1 for that purpose, for a
single edition. But maybe that's not an easy adaption and would require
additional programming effort, I don't know... but I guess the normal single
version is created like that too, somehow.

(But actually I didn't want to think about all that any longer... the ChessBase
staff will know what to do best.)

Regards,
M.Scheidl



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