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Subject: Re: 20 game match experiment

Author: Frank Schneider

Date: 04:15:37 10/23/98

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On October 22, 1998 at 17:14:19, Howard Exner wrote:

>Has anyone tried this ... Running a 20 game blitz match with the same
>program but labeling the one program A and the other B. So the first
>game would for example have Crafty A vs. Crafty B. Then the match would
>continue with Crafty B vs. Crafty A and so on.
>
>What would be the results after a 20 game match? What if many 20
>game matches were run like this? Could this tell us something about
>the predictability of what 20 game match scores tell us? Since the
>programs competing are dead equal one would suspect a 10 - 10 result.
>I'm curious what might be the range of the match results.
>
>I tried a 10 game match like this a while ago using Rebel 8.
>The results of Rebel A vs Rebel B was 6.5-3.5.
I think results like this will occur often, therefore playing 20-games-
matches to compare two versions of one program doesn't make much sense.

I once wrote a program for a game called 'wormworld' and had to compare
versions of my program. I played 200-games-matches and my experience
was that I got reliable and reproducable results. Even some close (110-90)
results were reproducable (for example 110-90 --> 113-87). But since Wormworld
differs from chess I'm not sure if it would work for chess. And the searchtime
was limited to 1 second a move which is unrealistic for chess.


>
>If someone has data on this could they post it.
Frank



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