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Subject: Re: About Junior 8

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 03:55:15 06/26/03

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On June 25, 2003 at 17:46:59, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On June 25, 2003 at 16:43:18, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On June 25, 2003 at 16:22:55, George Tsavdaris wrote:
>>
>>>On June 25, 2003 at 13:40:16, Rajen Gupta wrote:
>>>
>>>>i have written to my local lexus, BMW and mercedes dealers to send me an LS 430;
>>>>740i and S500 respectively so that i can do a comparison test for the lifetime
>>>>of these vehicles and post the daily comparisons on the internet just as a
>>>>service to the consumers!
>>>>
>>>>I cant imagine why, but none of them have agreed!
>>>
>>>Yes, what a bad companies they are. Like Chessbase.
>>>It doesn't give us their engines for free!
>>>
>>>Dear Dimitris, your thoughts are unacceptable.Why on earth, someone that
>>>worked hard for something give it to you for free? OK, some people is doing
>>>this by releasing freeware programs. But if all programs were freeware
>>>then you can imagine what would happen. And specifically for chess, if
>>>someone loves computer chess and wants this continue improving, then
>>>taking engines for free or stealing them from kazaa etc... is absolutelly
>>>stupid. Someone who is not paying for the engines and taking them from
>>>illegal places, it's not clever, it's idiot. Because this way, computer
>>>chess development will slow down or even stop.
>>>Although i find really annoying the fact that we have to pay 200 Euro for
>>>Shredder 7 + Fritz 8 + C-Tiger 15.0 + Junior 8 to get 4 CD's which
>>>contain 99.99% the same thing, as only engine files change.
>>
>>do you say that the engines are only 0.01%?
>>I think that the engine is the main reason to buy chess software.
>>
>OK, you have some right to this. I was talking about size of the files inside
>the CD, so yes engine-files are only ~0.06% of the entire CD-files.
>Of cource it's not the size of files that counts, but the purpose of
>the file. For example i could live without any sound files or the 3-D
>graphics that are about 20% or more of the size of the CD.
>
> Engine is the main reason also for me to buy software, but i think
>chess companies(Chessbase mainly as it has the most engines) must
>find a new way for distribute software, as paying 200 Euro for
>Shredder 7 + Fritz 8 + C-Tiger 15.0 + Junior 8 is too much.
>I give 65% importance for the engine and the rest 45% for the GUI, but
>i think the price should be 40% for engine and 60% for the GUI, so
>the prices must be 20 Euro for each engine and 30 for the GUI.

Perhaps if you approached them about giving you a discount if you buy 3 or 4
engines at once they might consider doing so?

Dave



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