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Subject: Re: Here we go again... :)

Author: Peter Stayne

Date: 09:01:45 06/30/03

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Thanks for the reply.

>If we count different versions and if i would exclude DIEP from that (because
>trivially i release sometimes within several days several versions) then i still
>would have more than 260 :)

Nice. :) Though I only brought that up to show that yes, I am aware that other
programs exist :)

>those were very old benchmarks. p4 is better now than it is looking there.
>that was with the RDRAM. It was in those days 70% slower the P4 than a K7.
>That huge diff is no longer the case. I still do not understand why intel went
>for RDRAM. It was trivially going to lose from DDR ram in the long run because
>of its price, no matter its good or bad performance.
>
>Perhaps because a monopolist likes to do business with a monopolist :)

Rambus is on my short list of 'companies I despise' for their business
practices, but that's offtopic. :)

>>I'm confused, the original discussion was about MP's versus Xeons. I
>>wholeheartedly agree that Opterons, even with 32-bit software will blow
>>everything else out of the water.
>
>we should not compare 32 bits software compiled for 32 bits platform at the
>opteron with the Xeon.

Heh, yes, but I was TRYING to keep this conversation germaine to the original
question at the root of this thread. MP's vs Xeons.

>Note that Xeon MP ===> $5000 a cpu or so and only 2.8Ghz nowadays.

This is like those stories you hear about the US White House where they pay
$1000 for a toilet, $300 for a screw, etc... heh

>Bloody Nonsense. It only runs the fritz interface. I do not recollect that the
>chesspartner interface or the winboard can logon to that server.
>
>My own GUI won't connect to it either. i do not have the protocol to start with!

Ah, this would be where we're confusing eachother. You're talking about
interfaces, I'm talking about engines.

>Well patriottism has nothing to do with it. AMD is american. Intel is american.
>Intel gets produced basically in Malaysia and such republics and has some
>factories in ireland as well and everywhere on the planet.
>
>AMD has a 0.13 factory in germany if i remember well and now they deal with IBM
>to make a 0.09 factory, and it is hard to deny that IBM isn't world wide either.
>
>patriottism has nothing to do with the choice. the owners are all americans.

Er, I meant patriotism toward a company, not a nationality. The word patriotism
can be applied to anything that people swear allegiance to. Some are patriotic
to Intel, AMD, ATI, nVidia, Microsoft, Linux, etc... Me, I'm patriotic to
whatever gets the job done :)

>Answer is no.
>
>Note i do not know what RK2003 is. I just am interested in joining world champs
>2003 basically. All the other tournaments are commercially not important.
>
>Yes all my homepages are died.
>
>Perhaps i start homepage in september 2003 again or januari 2004. Not sure yet.
>Not before that for sure.

Disappointing :(. GL with Diep in the future!



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