Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 20:10:18 07/03/03
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On July 03, 2003 at 20:47:12, Chris Kantack wrote: >On July 03, 2003 at 07:42:32, Mike Byrne wrote: > >>>Chris your few quick comments were rather "vicious" and lacked "civility" in >>their own right (surprisingly to me - I held you in higher regard prior to that >>post). To summarize your post: >> >>1. You got a free engine to evaluate -- most of us do not get free commerical >>engines. >>2, You said it "sucks big time" -- did you ever go back to the author with your >>feedback prior to posting here - is that civilized? >> >>CP by the way has the best user support of any commercial engine by the way. >>You catch a bug and you get feedback and fixes -- sometimes within hours - try >>that with Chessbase. To say it "sucks big time" is expected from a troll - not >>somebody who holds themselves out to be a "revieiwer". BTW, The word "sucks" >>,although not a curse word, is offensive to many people and is not one normally >>used unless the author is purposely trying to be "vicious" and "offensive". I >>purposely used it in my reply to you to show the impact it has the reader. >>Obviously you did not like it - which was my point - it's not really a word to >>use --period. >> >>I think if your original post was little more civilized and stuck to the facts, >>it would have been better recieved. You did not really explain why you thought >>it "sucks" - other than stating all the things it was lacking in comparision to >>CM6K. The CM series - almost always have more goodies that many people - >>espeically beginners (like yourself) enjoy and it almost always a lot different >>that other chess programs. Richard Pilj put it best ,"Sounds like a vegetarian >>reviewing a grill restaurant. " . In hindsight your were the wrong person to >>send DS 1.5 to review. Once you realized that, you should have politely >>returned the software to CP and told them that you may be the wrong person to >>perform a review and kept your comments to yourself. That would been the >>civilized thing to do. >> >>Best, >> >>Michael >> >Once again, I think my Deep Sjeng comments must have hit "close to home". Why >is everyone focusing on the work "sucks". If Deep Sjeng is a good product tell >me why. Don't focus on my language. Seems to me, there must not be much good >in Deep Sjeng if all people can do is pick on the word "sucks". > >Chris It only hit home in the sense that Deep Sjeng is one of the best new commercial engines out there. It much stronger than the "free" Sjeng engine. The comparision should not have been made to CM6K - two totally different chess products. The GUI - Chesspartner GUI should be compared to F8 or possibly Arena - but not to CM6k. CM6K was strictly a one engine interface. I did not purchase a Cm product until their engine was made Winboard compatible. A lot or people on this forum are into engines vs engines - we collectively very protective of our favorite engines and we are loyal to the bone. Using the word "sucks" , showed a great deal of disrepsect to the author of Sjeng. He's on this board on a semi-regular basis and has devoted alot of time to his product. Prior to your post, you have much of your time, harking Excalibur products. But you never disclosed your relationship with Excalibur. If you are going to hark Excalibur products on your website or here, you should disclose whether or not you have a financial interest in Excalibur. If you have none - state it - if you have one - state it. You present Excalibur products as if you are an independant reviewer - are you ?. If you get paid for your review or get "test" units for free - that should be indicated in your review as a matter of ethics. I have no clue whether you are or not - and since I do not know - I am suspicious of why your reviews of Excalibur products are so gushing (from my perspective -- I am not a big fan of Excalibur units). Bottom line - what was said and posted is over with - nobody is going to keep flaming you for your one silly little "troll like" post. Come back more often, post some of the good games with the Excalurbur units. Run a handheld tourney and post the results. Tell us why you do not like the CP GUI -- just give it a little more meat. Post some of your good games with CM6K. Post as much want about computer chess - but don't come on this board and flame one our member's chess program by " it sucks big time" and without expecting at least a little bit of flack.
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