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Subject: Re: OpteronCrafty playing on ICC for a few days

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 03:00:05 07/05/03

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On July 04, 2003 at 23:06:25, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On July 03, 2003 at 19:58:22, Tom Kerrigan wrote:
>
>>On July 03, 2003 at 19:32:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On July 03, 2003 at 18:55:19, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 03, 2003 at 18:26:33, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>What are your results with your current exe, on the Crafty 'bench' test?
>>>>
>>>>                                        Elapsed SMP             Raw
>>>>                        Version CPUs    time    time-to-ply     NPS
>>>>Opteron 244 (1.7GHz)	19.03	2	28	22.857143	1976833
>>>>Opteron 244 (1.7GHz)	19.03	1	43	14.883721	1234812
>>>
>>>That leaves me pretty cold.  Dual 2.8ghz xeon, SMT on:
>>>
>>>Total nodes: 122846715
>>>Raw nodes per second: 2082147
>>>Total elapsed time: 59
>>>
>>>This is a different version (19.4) so the time is not really comparable,
>>>but the NPS is, and the xeon is faster than the opteron.  That looks ugly,
>>>although it obviously means the opteron is running 32 bit mode only, and it
>>>isn't very happy doing it.  Be nice to get real 64 bit boolean operations
>>>up and going.
>>
>>"Isn't very happy"? What's wrong with it?
>
>Simple.  It is slower than a dual 2.8xeon box, yet it is AMD's latest.
>
>That's all I said.  It is exactly what I meant.

If you tried optimizing for the Opteron and used a decent compiler with decent
options it'd do a lot better. The P4 isn't worth a crap without specific P4
optimizations and SSE2 support. That is a fact. You're comparing against a 32bit
non-PGO binary for the opteron with absolutely *NO* optimizations. No way you
can say, "My Xeons are faster".

>> What kind of #s does a dual Athlon
>>1.8GHz get? If the Opteron improves over the Athlon with 32 bit code (and I
>>suspect it does) it seems like there should be very little cause for complaint.
>>Add to that the fact that Opteron will almost ceratinly run 64 bit Crafty much
>>faster and we're talking about a 1st generation Opteron anyway. Rumor is, 2GHz
>>Opterons will be available on the 6th, and those should be 5% faster than your
>>dual 2.8 Xeon.
>
>Maybe.  My dual 2.8 is already out of date, of course.  dual 3.06's are
>shipping with a 33% faster FSB.  But I commented on the potential for a
>real 64 bit compiler.  But the 32 bit numbers don't excite me.
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>>-Tom



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