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Subject: Re: Another good underpromotion test position

Author: Matthew White

Date: 15:56:29 07/23/03

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On July 23, 2003 at 16:09:50, Tord Romstad wrote:

>On July 23, 2003 at 15:24:18, Matthew White wrote:
>
>>[D]8/5p1k/6pp/8/q2QB3/2K4P/1p3P2/8 b - - 0 45
>>
>>From Levin (2331) - IM Donaldson, Western States Open 2003 (analysis)
>>The move actually played was 45... Qa1? 46. Bxg6+!! and draw by perpetual check
>>Can your engine find the winning 45... b1=N+!! 46. Bxb1 Qa1+ and black enters
>>the endgame a pawn up
>>
>>Every engine that I have tested finds it eventually. However, some do take
>>longer than others :).
>
>Really?  Which programs need time to find this move?  Gothmog finds it at ply 1
>after 0.00 seconds:
>
> 1      -0.62     0.00          6 a4d4 c3d4
> 1    > -0.62     0.00         72 b2b1N
> 1       1.74     0.00        134 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e3
> 2       1.74     0.00        858 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e3
> 3       2.07     0.01       1892 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2
> 4       2.07     0.02       5245 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2
> 5       2.31     0.13      25439 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2 f7f5 d4d7
>                                  h7h8
> 6       2.12     0.24      49236 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2 b1c2 e2f1
>                                  c2c1 f1g2
> 7       2.25     0.57     133399 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2 b1h1 d4f6
>                                  h1d5
> 8       2.23     1.74     448236 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2 b1c1 d4d2
>                                  c1h1
> 9       2.16     5.69    1564170 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2 b1b3 h3h4
>                                  b3c2 e2f1 c2c1 f1g2
>10       2.12    13.98    3946148 b2b1N e4b1 a4a1 c3d3 a1b1 d3e2 b1b3 h3h4
>                                  b3e6 e2f1 e6c6 f1g1
>
>Thanks for the test!  In fact I implemented underpromotions in Gothmog
>yesterday, and now I know that it works!  :-)
>
>Tord

Crafty 19.1 took a while on my machine at home. Something like 13 ply... Doctor?
4.2 took quite a while as well.

Matt



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