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Subject: getting insight

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 02:41:55 08/04/03

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On August 04, 2003 at 04:39:56, Bo Persson wrote:

hi,

it's not so difficult to get a look&feel for it.

a 5 line tool of mine that just prints text out of binary files. so not a
dissassembler at all.

Kernel32.dll : nothing what i searched for
winfax.dll   : nothing what i searched for
gpedit.dll   :

"normal program termination      R6009  - not enough space for environment   R6
008  - not enough space for arguments     R6002  - floating point not loaded
    Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library        Runtime Error!  Program:    ..
. <program name unknown>          IsProcessorFeaturePresent   KERNEL32        "

Do i need to spell it out?

>On August 03, 2003 at 19:08:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On August 03, 2003 at 16:52:17, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Sorry, I'll be clearer this time:
>>>
>>>(Talking about claim that Windows kernel is written in the assembler)
>>>
>>>SARCASM ON:
>>>
>>>This is definitely so, especially if you take into account that NT/2k/XP
>>>variants were commercially sold not only for x86, but for PowerPC, MIPS, Alpha,
>>>and IA-64 CPUs. Of course MS wrote 5 kernels in the different assembler
>>>languages...
>>>
>>>SARCASM OFF.
>>>
>>>Vincent is the only source from which I hear that fact. And if I have to choose
>>>between Vincent's words and NT source code on one of my developer's machine,
>>>I'll trust the later...
>>
>>So there is a C version too. Cool to know.
>
>Hey, Vincent, cool down. It was the Windows 95 series that was written
>especially for the x86 (and DOS compatibility). The NT series of Windows has
>always been written in C/C++, with a machine independent design. There are some
>adaptions for different hardware architectures, like virtual memory and I/O, but
>that is in a separate "hardware abstraction layer". I guess that might include
>some assembly language, but its just a very small part of the entire system.
>
>>
>>But for your notice, yes the released thing has major assembly parts in the
>>kernel. Of course you don't know what the other divisions of microsoft are
>>doing. I guess you are in the compiler division?
>
>So you don't think the compiler guys have access to the Windows and Office
>source to test their compilers? Come on!
>
>
>Bo Persson
>bop2@telia.com



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