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Subject: Re: off-topic (status of sniping)

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 07:51:50 08/05/03

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On August 04, 2003 at 22:03:29, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>I've always wanted a .220 swift, VERY nice guns. Never heard of the purple
>>mist.. awesome. :) Check out this loading for a .22-243... 5278fps, 2 fps short
>>of 1 mile per second. Absolutely ridiculous IMO.
>
>I've never seen any rifle shoot that fast.  Amazing.  The .220's problem
>was rate of twist.  At 4200fps (the velocity I hand-loaded to) that turns
>into something over 5000 revolutions per second.  Push it much beyond
>that and the .22 caliber projectile simply could not take the spin forces
>and it would disintegrate in the air.  The claim to fame for this round was
>both flat shooting and _zero_ ricochets.  At 400 yards, the mid-range
>trajectory was something like +4-5 inches, which means you can almost hold
>dead-on out to 450-500 yards.  We used to eradicate crows with this gun,
>and when there were no crows, we'd take out tomatoes at 400 yards.  Neat
>to hear the "BLAM".  then a second or two later "PLOP" when the tomato
>exploded and the sound made its way back.  Watermelons were another good
>target (they explode at 300-400 yards) but they were too easy.  :)
>
>>
>>http://www.reloadersnest.com/detail.asp?CaliberID=100&LoadID=1147
>>
>>Here are some loads for you to tinker with for the .220 swift if you mess with
>>it.
>
>I strictly hand-load for this gun but I haven't shot it much lately.  Barrel
>life is bad (throat erodes badly).  I spend more time with my trusty .270 or
>a .308 that is deadly accurate to 400 yards (and beyond if you don't mind a
>big hold-over at 500-1000 yards).

I wish I could try some of those faster, smaller cartridges. I only own 7.62x39
and 7.62x54R rifles at the moment..

I hear you on the crows & tomatos.. ever fire on prairie dogs? Word of warning,
ANYONE who doesn't like gruesome stuff absolutely in no way go to this page or
link.. you have been warned! :)

http://www.dogbegone.com/video/maxcarn.wmv
http://www.dogbegone.com/video/humor.wmv

I think the rifles used in those videos were hand-load .223, 22-250 and the
newer .17 HMR. I emailed'em and he said to achieve results like that you'd need
a 3000+ fps round thats extremely frangible. Can't quite do that with my
7.62x54R (loaded hot as hell it'll hit ~3050fps w/ 150 grain FMJ, and split the
casing neck) but couldn't find any frangible ammo. Perhaps a sabot will do
better?



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