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Subject: Re: Christian Kongsted's book

Author: Sandro Necchi

Date: 10:36:20 08/20/03

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On August 20, 2003 at 05:18:18, Jeroen Noomen wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have just completed reading Christian Kongsted's book
>'How to use computers to improve your chess'. I must say that
>I like this book. It gives a lot of valuable information, not
>only for those who want to improve his/her playing strength,
>his/her chances of beating the silicon beast, but also for
>programmers.
>
>Kongsted gives a lot of interesting positions in which computer
>programs are not able to come up with the right evaluation. So I
>think it is a very interesting manual for programmers as well.
>
>Of course I was very interested in what the book would say about
>the program's opening books. Unfortunately this topic gets less
>than two pages, so I was a bit disappointed by this fact. Also I
>don't agree with Kongsted's evaluation of the opening books of
>modern top programs. Let me quote some of them:
>
>1. Opening books are often made as the last thing before a release.
>
>This is not true. People like Alex Kure, Sandro Necchi, Dan Wulff
>and me spent the whole year to improve it and to adjust it. Hundreds
>of hours are spent to test the book and adjust it.
>
>2. The opening books are made by the programmer himself or a chess
>player who enters suggested lines from theory books or databases,
>without checking the lines.
>
>Also not true. As everybody knows here, all the book expert do a lot
>of testing, improving chess theory themselves, adding variations
>and improvements. Kongsted's statement might be true for a lot of
>programmers, but certainly not for the top products.
>
>3. The opening book operators are not necessarily strong players
>and thus might be having trouble identifying which lines are viable
>and which are not.
>
>My current rating is around 2200, but I can give a lot of examples
>that proves the opposite of the above statement. And I think again
>that the top products have these topic lines covered very well.
>I only want to point out the games Anand - Rebel (1st tournament
>game), Rebel - Scherbakov (offbeat line that brought Rebel a
>brilliant victory) or Chess Tiger - Fritz from the tournament in
>Leiden this year, where I improved theory and crushed a line that
>was thought to be quite good for black.
>
>4. Generally, strong players do not have to fear the openingbook
>of the computer.
>
>Well, I think they should, especially when guys like Alex, Sandro
>or me are preparing the book for some opponent! From my own
>examples: The book preparations for Rebel against John van der Wiel
>were quite successfull, helping to win the match 3,5-2,5. And John
>stated after the match that it was much more difficult to get anti
>computer positions against Rebel in this match. Which I took as a
>compliment for myself :-).
>Furthermore, the best books contain very sharp offbeat lines, when
>used against strong opponents can turn into a deadly weapon. F.e.
>Cock de Gorter - who made books for The King amongst others - is
>very good at this. In the AEGON tournaments De Gorter often managed
>to take strong players by surprise by those offbeat lines, with
>good success as well.
>
>All in all the information about the opening books of the current
>top programs is quite meagre, with only two pages and IMO the
>conclusions of Christian are too one-sided and not in accordance
>with the real situation.
>
>But overall I like this book and it contains a lot of interesting
>information for all who wants to improve playing chess or who wants
>to write a chess program. I can recommend it for everybody in this
>forum here. Good job, Christian!
>
>Best wishes, Jeroen

Hi,

I fully agree with you.

I realized the importance of the opening book long ago (1976), but at that time
nearly all players believed that the book was important only to have a higher
variety of play.

I think few people did understand how different is "to know" the opening theory
for a computer (chess program) than a "human" player.

I guess it will take them some more years to realize...

Don't get disappointed, all this is not a surprise to me.

I agree also that the book is for the rest quite good.

Ciao
Sandro



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