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Subject: Re: Crafty and NUMA

Author: Jay Urbanski

Date: 19:19:35 08/30/03

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On August 29, 2003 at 23:41:32, Jeremiah Penery wrote:

>On August 29, 2003 at 18:40:23, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>
>>I'm not sure of what/why Prof. Bob Hyatt may have made those comments. But to
>>get a program like crafty to work properly in a numa machine will not be trivial
>>- and it wont be tweaks , but something more.
>
>All multi-CPU Opteron machines are NUMA.  Crafty will work just fine in those.
>It will not be theoretically optimal, but that also depends on the OS to help
>with NUMA issues.
>
>>Duals , etc count as SMP machine not cc-numa which I was refering to.
>
>Dual Opterons are NUMA.

Correct, all Opterons are NUMA.  However, they could perhaps be better described
as "near SMP".  The delta in latencies for remote versus local memory on a
two-way is something like ~80ns to ~115ns.  Compare this to about ~180 ns for an
Intel Xeon shared SMP bus and you're still better off with Opteron even with a
standard SMP kernel.  If you run an OS with NUMA awareness (Windows 2003 server
and some Linux kernels) you'll get even better performance.



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