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Subject: Re: Crafty and NUMA

Author: Jeremiah Penery

Date: 15:26:44 09/02/03

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On September 02, 2003 at 18:08:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 02, 2003 at 00:14:02, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 2003 at 23:23:18, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 01, 2003 at 09:39:55, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>
>>>>Any large (multi-node) SMP machine will have the same problem as NUMA with
>>>>respect to inter-node latency.  SMP doesn't magically make node-to-node
>>>>communication any faster.
>>>
>>>Actually it does.  SMP means symmetric.
>>>
>>>NUMA is _not_ symmetric.
>>
>>Of course.  The acronym means "non uniform memory access".
>>
>>But if you think "symmetric" necessarily means "faster", maybe you'd better look
>>in a dictionary.
>
>You're wrong by a factor 2 or so in latency and up to factor 5 for 128 cpu's.

Blah blah blah.  I snipped the rest of your drivel.

All I said is that being SMP doesn't magically make your latency better.  It
depends on how the machine is built.  There's no reason a big NUMA machine
couldn't be built where the average memory access wouldn't be as fast or faster
than a similar-sized SMP machine.  There are several reasons why such a machine
isn't built, but not a real technical reason.



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