Author: Mike Byrne
Date: 18:43:40 09/08/03
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On September 08, 2003 at 04:14:00, Eye Witness wrote: >On September 08, 2003 at 03:42:58, Johan de Koning wrote: > >>On September 07, 2003 at 18:08:14, Mike Byrne wrote: >> >>>On September 07, 2003 at 17:17:31, George Tsavdaris wrote: >>> >>>>On September 07, 2003 at 17:06:18, George Jones wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 16:53:35, Mike Byrne wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 14:28:18, George Jones wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 14:19:25, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 14:13:22, Afzal Siddique wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On September 07, 2003 at 13:29:38, George Jones wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>There was a very simple technique for using chessmaster in fritz renaming the >>>>>>>>>>king engine to deadking, anyone have a link to these instructions? I forgot how >>>>>>>>>>to do it and no longer have the link, thanks >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Hello. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>well i dont have its site but i have all the contents of deadking zipped.. soo >>>>>>>>>if u want it u jus gimme a mail at afzalsiddique@hotmail.com and i will reply >>>>>>>>>back with the zipped file >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Best, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Afzal >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We all should not support tools that are determined to crack >>>>>>>> commercial software. >>>>>>>> Kurt >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Excuse me, I am a Registered Owner of CM9000. >>>>>> >>>>>>Even as a registered user, if you are using deadking, you are using illegal >>>>>>software which is forbidden topic here based on the charter. Period - end of >>>>>>story. No more posts about deadking in this forum. You may post deadking >>>>>>question at r.g.c.c as that forum is unmoderated. >>>>>> >>>>>>Michael Byrne >>>>>>Moderator >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I didn't know that deadking was illegal or pirated software, did you ever once >>>>>think that as a possiblility before you "Rushed to Judgement" >>>>>although frankly I don't feel guilty one bit I Paid my 30 dollars for the >>>>>product so you and whoever else can go to hell period!! >>>> >>>>Why such nerves? He didn't accuse you for something. He said only that >>>>discussions about pirated software is a forbidden topic in this forum. >>>>Although i disagree that deadking is something illegal. If you purchased >>>>CM9000 then i think it's legal to use deadking. >>>>Anyway we should define pirated/illegal software, because perhaps Mike's >>>>definition might be different from mine. >>> >>>My definition is quite simple. If the software violates the licenisng >>>agreement, it is illegal. I have read the UBI Soft licensing agreement and like >>>most agreements, distrubuting licensed modified code to others (registered or >>>not registered ) users is prohibited. That is exactly what deadking is, it is a >>>distributution of modified code that was governed by the licensing agreement >>>which explicitly forbade that. >>> >>>But perhaps, I am wrong -- so I will pose the question to the author of the "The >>>King" and one of our esteemed members of CCC, Johan de Koning, about the >>>legality of "deadking". >>> >>>Johan - are your views of the legality of the "deadking" - modified "the king" >>>engine code that allows the user to use the "The King" engine in the Fritz >>>enviroment without ever requiring the OPK code? >> >>Tough question. :-) >>What does your average lawyer think about the weight of Rook access to e5? >>And would their opinion matter? >> >>Even engine programmers don't care if it's 5 or 10, because it doesn't matter. >>Likewise, even lawyers don't care if OPK recipes or cracks are on the left or >>right side of some imaginary thin line. Unless they're told to make the line >>real and thick, by someone who feels his business is being threatened. That >>won't happen regarding Chessmaster, but nevertheless the ongoing battle between >>the recording industry and the music sharing crowd is something worth watching >>from the sideline. >> >>The bottom line is that my views on legality are none and void. >> >>My views on copy protection in general are simple: it annoys developpers and >>users, but management always decides in favor. IMHO a cool box, a nice manual, >>the feeling of the real thing, and a low price should be enough to preempt >>large scale piracy of software, or any mediaware. >>But that's just MHO, and I'd welcome any decent research on the subject. :-) >> >>... Johan >Here is the top subject from the site "A request to Chessmaster owners: >Although it would be very easy to pirate The King engine for use by those who >don't own the Chessmaster 9000 program, this would violate the rights of the >author of this beautiful piece of work, Johan De Koning. > >My intention in creating this patch was to enable the legitimate owners to use >what they have paid for without restrictions. I sincerely hope you feel the same >way and don't pass the engine file, TheKing.exe in its patched or unpatched form >to anyone. Thanks. " > >Byrne is a republican! Actually, I am independant - I am way too stubborn to fit perfectlty in either Republican or Demorcrat ;>) I actually owe you an apology. You created a patch, and you were not issueing a modified King engine. I always believed your had the latter I am not a lawyer, but my understanding is that 3rd party patches are not illegal or a copyright violation act by the patch author - although the use of that patch may be subject to different interpretations. Anyway, here's my apology for calling you a software pirate.
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