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Subject: Re: First games with Hiarcs 9 (opening book) Kurt What Are Others Saying

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 09:59:47 09/11/03

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On September 11, 2003 at 11:50:03, Peter Skinner wrote:

>On September 11, 2003 at 11:41:37, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On September 11, 2003 at 11:29:42, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>
>>>On September 11, 2003 at 11:11:17, Peter Berger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Says ad: "A special asset of Hiarcs 9 is the opening book, which has been finely
>>>>adjusted to the playing style of the program. This is the work of computer chess
>>>>expert Eric Hallsworth, who has been developing the Hiarcs opening books for
>>>>many years. For Hiarcs 9, he has compiled an optimized and many-sided repertoire
>>>>with a wealth of novelties."
>>>>
>>>>This is hard to believe looking at these two games:
>>>>
>>>>(Also, did you deactivate book learning?)
>>>>
>>>>[Event "ICC 5 3"]
>>>>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>>>>[Date "2003.09.10"]
>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>[White "crafty"]
>>>>[Black "Somnus"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
>>>>[WhiteElo "2741"]
>>>>[BlackElo "2837"]
>>>>[Opening "Benoni defense"]
>>>>[ECO "A61"]
>>>>[NIC "BI.38"]
>>>>[Time "23:09:11"]
>>>>[TimeControl "300+3"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 Be7 7. e4 O-O 8.
>>>>Be2 Bd7 9. O-O Qb6 10. e5 Ng4 11. exd6 Bxd6 12. h3 Ne5 13. Nxe5 Bxe5 14. Bd3
>>>>f5 15. Re1 Re8 16. Qf3 g6 17. Re2 Na6 18. Be3 Bc7 19. Rae1 Bd6 20. a3 Re7
>>>>21. Bc4 Rf8 22. Bf4 Rxe2 23. Rxe2 Re8 24. Rxe8+ Bxe8 25. Qg3 Bxf4 26. Qxf4
>>>>Bf7 27. Qe5 Qd8 28. Bxa6 bxa6 29. d6 Qd7 30. Qxc5 a5 31. Nb5 a6 32. Nc7 Be6
>>>>33. Nxa6 Qb7 34. Qe5 {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>>
>>>>[Event "ICC 5 3"]
>>>>[Site "Internet Chess Club"]
>>>>[Date "2003.09.10"]
>>>>[Round "-"]
>>>>[White "epanek"]
>>>>[Black "Somnus"]
>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>[ICCResult "Black checkmated"]
>>>>[WhiteElo "2808"]
>>>>[BlackElo "2797"]
>>>>[Opening "Benoni defense"]
>>>>[ECO "A61"]
>>>>[NIC "BI.38"]
>>>>[Time "23:56:10"]
>>>>[TimeControl "300+3"]
>>>>
>>>>1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 e6 4. Nc3 exd5 5. cxd5 d6 6. Nf3 Be7 7. e4 O-O 8.
>>>>Be2 Bd7 9. O-O Qb6 10. Nd2 Qc7 11. a4 Ne8 12. Re1 Na6 13. Nc4 Nb4 14. Bf4 f5
>>>>15. e5 g5 16. exd6 Nxd6 17. Be5 Be8 18. Qd2 h6 19. h4 Rd8 20. Nb5 Bxb5 21.
>>>>axb5 Qd7 22. Bxd6 Bxd6 23. Nxd6 Qxd6 24. hxg5 f4 25. gxh6 Qxh6 26. Bc4 Rd6
>>>>27. Re7 a6 28. Rxb7 Rf5 29. Re1 axb5 30. Re8+ Rf8 31. Qe2 Rf6 32. Rxb5 f3
>>>>33. d6+ Kh8 34. Rxf8+ Rxf8 35. Qe5+ Qg7 36. Qh5+ Qh7 37. Qxc5 Nc6 38. Qxc6
>>>>fxg2 39. Qxg2 Qb1+ 40. Bf1 Qh7 41. Rg5 Qh4 42. Bc4 Qh7 43. Qg4 Qb1+ 44. Bf1
>>>>Qf5 45. Qh4+ Qh7 46. Qd4+ Rf6 47. Qxf6+ Qg7 48. Qxg7# {Black checkmated} 1-0
>>>
>>>
>>>     In the meantime we all know that at least the opening book(s)
>>>     for Hiarcs8 was/were not very well adapted to the playing
>>>     style of the program when fighting other engines. I had always
>>>     the feeling that the book(s) would better suit for playing
>>>     against humans.
>>>     Kurt
>>
>>Kurt could you give us some impressions on Hiarcs 9 from the German Forums?
>>
>>This is certainly of interest to C.C.C. members and potential buyers.
>>I've already purchased H9, so I've already committed myself:o)
>>BTW it does include the Bareev engine too, that would also be of interest.
>>
>>Terry
>
>Yes it does have the Bareev engine. I have it in my installation.
>
>Peter.

Thanks Kurt and Peter for your answers.

Terry



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