Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: Does any program except Brutus play this sacrifice?

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 10:29:32 09/15/03

Go up one level in this thread


On September 15, 2003 at 13:23:14, Drexel,Michael wrote:

>On September 15, 2003 at 12:55:53, Tord Romstad wrote:
>
>>On September 15, 2003 at 12:29:52, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>
>>>On September 15, 2003 at 12:25:25, Tord Romstad wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 14, 2003 at 17:58:56, Roy Eassa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[d] 4r1k1/p4ppp/1p1q1n2/1Pb1n3/8/1N4P1/PB3PBP/2RQ2K1 b - - 0 1
>>>>>Brutus played ...Bxf2+
>>>>>
>>>>>1... Bxf2+!?
>>>>
>>>>Like Will Singleton, I think many (perhaps even most) programs will
>>>>play Bxf2, but I think finding a win for white will take a very long
>>>>time.
>>>>
>>>>Gothmog 0.3.0 plays Bxf2 after less than 4 seconds, but it's a purely
>>>>speculative sacrifice.  The score is not at all convincing:
>>>
>>>It is not speculative, it is almost forced. Everything else is very bad for
>>>white.
>>
>>Sorry, I should have been clearer.  I meant that Gothmog plays Bxf2 as
>>a speculative sacrifice, from a subjective point of view.  It does not
>>see a win for black, but just gambles that black's attacking chances will
>>be sufficient to compensate for the piece.
>>
>>Tord
>
>You are the programmer ...
>
>But if your program also sees in less than 4 seconds that
>1... Nd3 is bad because of the forced
>2. Nxc5 bxc5 3. Bf1 Re1 4. Qd2 Rxc1 5. Bxc1 c4 6. Qc3 Qd5 7. Bxd3 Qxd3
>8. Qxd3 cxd3 (with clearly better endgame for white) then it would be quite an
>achievement.
>All top programs need at least several minutes to find it.
>
>Michael

All that I have tested
Dont know about Junior :)



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.