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Subject: Re: investigation finished.

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 18:25:00 09/23/03

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On September 22, 2003 at 19:12:02, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On September 22, 2003 at 12:50:34, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>hi, though my computer is making extra hours nowadays analyzing
openingpositions >(no not anything like CAP, just for some corr game of a
friend who wants to win >BADLY as that matters for his career; which ain't easy
against Svidler), i >managed to stop it shortly.
>
>Without extensions the current version finds this in 4 minutes. Even though
>that's based upon a few thousands of a pawn it's pretty interesting.

Crafty also selects Bxc4 at ply 15 with a 0.41 score.  Ply 16 drops to 0.32.
Nothing special for progs to find.

MH

>
>The move goes back later and then gets back 1 ply deeper again.
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent
>
>>On September 21, 2003 at 05:58:50, emerson tan wrote:
>>
>>>On September 19, 2003 at 11:14:29, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello,
>>>>
>>>>I'm looking for positions to search very deep with a cpu or 500 which are
>>>>interesting to search deep. Seemingly a whole machine must get reserved for
DIEP >>>>world champs 2003. The NWO/NCF perhaps needs to pay for the cpu hours
also >>>>during the night says SARA (there is 7 organisations involved and i
have written >>>>at least 1 page for each processor to get it so i won't even
start quoting all >>>>the organisations involved).
>>>>
>>>>Most jobs run like 2 weeks or so at say for example 32 processors, so all
those >>>>jobs cannot get started trivially in the night.
>>>>
>>>>Anyway more negotiations will be there, because the world champs like this
will >>>>cost 80000 cpu hours.
>>>>
>>>>This is all internal talks. In case any of such scenario happens or even
between >>>>rounds when diep finishes sooner its games, there sometimes is a
few hours left >>>>to run diep at 500 cpu's at for example 1 position each run.
>>>>
>>>>that's 250Ghz with around 200GB hashtables in total.
>>>>
>>>>So this allows some massive deep calculations. I'm looking for cool
positions to >>>>try.
>>>>
>>>>Please don't mention the openings position, i'm already using that now and
it >>>>isn't very interesting at all to search that one deep.
>>>>
>>>>feel free to email to me about this: diep@xs4all.nl
>>>>
>>>>Best regards,
>>>>Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>> I still havent seen a computer find the move here even if it takes several
>>>days. The move is correct because white is already holpless in all
variations. I >>>tried autoplaying with long time control, both computers cant
understand black >>>is winning, but all the games black ended up winning.
>>>
>>>
>>>[D]r3r1k1/pp1q1p2/2p2npb/PPPp1bnp/3PpN2/2N1P1PP/1R1B1PBK/3Q1R2 b - - 0 19
>>>
>>>Nikolic - Fischer 1968
>>>
>>>The key move is 19 - Bg4!!
>>>
>>>
>>>The next Diagram was mentioned in Kasparov's My Predesessors, Kasparov said
no >>>computer can find the move here.
>>>
>>>
>>>[D]2r2rk1/pp3pp1/4bb1p/q2p1P1Q/3P4/2N5/PP4PP/1K1R1B1R b - - 0 17
>>>
>>>Pillsbury - Lasker 1896
>>>
>>>Key move 17 - Rxc3!!
>>>
>>>
>>>The next one here involves early sacrifice in the opening, there's no
forcing >>>line, just for iniative. This became the best played game in one of
the  1990 >>>Informator.
>>>
>>>
>>>[D]rn1qk1nr/1b3ppp/p2b4/3p4/P1pP4/5N2/2PNBPPP/R1BQ1RK1 w kq - 0 11
>>>
>>>Geller - Dreev 1990
>>>
>>>Key move 11. Bxc4!!
>>
>>Gonna investigate this one. this pos looks very cool. complex middlegame
>>with a lot of possibilities. It's the first pos from which i say: "YES this
is >>interesting".
>>
>>>
>>>Next one here people might already mentioned this to you, but just in case
no >>>one mentioned it, I'll post it here because its too good to miss.
>>>
>>>[D]8/8/4kpp1/3p1b2/p6P/2B5/6P1/6K1 b - - 0 47
>>>
>>>Topalov - Shirov 1998
>>>
>>>Key move 47 - Bh3!!



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