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Subject: Re: Testresults WAC, LCT II, WM (K)

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 11:36:52 09/29/03

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On September 29, 2003 at 12:04:53, Jeroen van Dorp wrote:

>On September 29, 2003 at 05:51:40, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>
>>I think I made it clear enough that my test was intended to find the best
>>engines for interactive Analysis ONLY.
>>So when the move quickly shows up I see it in the engine windows pane.
>>After that I can check myself whether the move is good or not.
>>
>>I never trust the engines output anyway.
>>Important is only to not miss a deep tactical possibility.
>
>
>I think you basically agree with each other about the proper test methode and
>the value of the result.

Nope

>
>You state that _you're_ not interested in it. You want an on the fly analysis.
>But at the same time you "don't trust" the analysis and want to check it
>manually. And rightfully, because you certainly will miss "deep tactical
>possibilites" as well, as can be easily proven with letting those test suites
>running the full time - or even longer. Especially in the tactical suites the
>hard positions are the ones with the deep tactical possibilities, which are
>often not find, while the quick tactics are easily identified.
>
>
>So you basically want an on the fly analysis which has no value to you as well,

Did I say it has no value for me?
No

It helps me a lot to initiate my own thinking process.
If I agree with the engine move I can go on. If I dont agree for some reason I
have to find and check the alternatives.

Certainly an engine can find the right move for the wrong reason and discard it
later on.
However if a program finds the right moves on average earlier than another
program then it is also more likely that it shows convincing score and pv
earlier because moves at the top of the list are calculated longer.

Michael

>yet you want to test the value of with test suites.
>
>It seems like you just argued that you tested and achieved test results that
>have no value at all.
>
>J.



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